Or maybe they're not arrogant enough to think they have the perfect solution for every customer and think their users are intelligent enough to set up the program the way they want. Or not.liquidsound wrote:I think I know why Reaper is full of options and customizations, they want the user to do the dirty work to make something more useful out of a Chinese menu.
Why spend time in creating a user friendly interface simply efficient and effective workflow (because probably they lost the way to it by focusing to add to the kitchen basket. Here! This is the knife,pots and vegetables. Chop it and cook it yourself. BUT I thought a was in a 5 Star restaurant! Nope! $60 it is just a buffet. Just Kidding or... maybe not
Would you still buy Reaper if it will cost you as much as the other DAWs ?
- KVRAF
- 9590 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
- KVRAF
- 37431 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
This. I think the overall approach Reaper devs have from their marketing and demo strategy to design is pretty much to treat users as responsible adults - it's a commendable approachjupiter8 wrote:Or maybe they're not arrogant enough to think they have the perfect solution for every customer and think their users are intelligent enough to set up the program the way they want. Or not.liquidsound wrote:I think I know why Reaper is full of options and customizations, they want the user to do the dirty work to make something more useful out of a Chinese menu.
Why spend time in creating a user friendly interface simply efficient and effective workflow (because probably they lost the way to it by focusing to add to the kitchen basket. Here! This is the knife,pots and vegetables. Chop it and cook it yourself. BUT I thought a was in a 5 Star restaurant! Nope! $60 it is just a buffet. Just Kidding or... maybe not
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- KVRian
- 614 posts since 1 May, 2009
I tend to think that some of the others are overpriced. I'm happy with Reaper's price, and I'm not going anywhere.
However, if Props ever pulls the dongle out of their butt, I wouldn't mind a little two-timing.
However, if Props ever pulls the dongle out of their butt, I wouldn't mind a little two-timing.
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON

Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- KVRist
- 156 posts since 27 Jul, 2008
Ok I get that Reaper is a great bargain at 60$, it's the best bang-for-your-buck DAW on the market, etc... I get it, I really do.
But you're honestly telling me that if a DAW with far more (and better) features, workflow, etc... like Cubase or Logic was 60$ you would still go with Reaper?! Why drive a Honda if you can drive an S class Mercedes for the same price?
But you're honestly telling me that if a DAW with far more (and better) features, workflow, etc... like Cubase or Logic was 60$ you would still go with Reaper?! Why drive a Honda if you can drive an S class Mercedes for the same price?
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
You see?Marcus797 wrote:Ok I get that Reaper is a great bargain at 60$, it's the best bang-for-your-buck DAW on the market, etc... I get it, I really do.
But you're honestly telling me that if a DAW with far more (and better) features, workflow, etc... like Cubase or Logic was 60$ you would still go with Reaper?! Why drive a Honda if you can drive an S class Mercedes for the same price?
It is all about market share.
And, again, who is the master subject who can prove that certain features are better in Cubase or Logic?
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Yes. And I'd love to have a HondaMarcus797 wrote:Ok I get that Reaper is a great bargain at 60$, it's the best bang-for-your-buck DAW on the market, etc... I get it, I really do.
But you're honestly telling me that if a DAW with far more (and better) features, workflow, etc... like Cubase or Logic was 60$ you would still go with Reaper?!
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- KVRAF
- 3499 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Poland
Yes honestly.Marcus797 wrote:But you're honestly telling me that if a DAW with far more (and better) features, workflow, etc... like Cubase or Logic was 60$ you would still go with Reaper?! Why drive a Honda if you can drive an S class Mercedes for the same price?
1. Workflow depends 75% on the user and 25% on the DAW - now after good few years away from cubarse i will do things in REAPER much faster.
2. Even if >my< workflow in cubarse was better than in REAPER (from what i remember it was about the same), what good would that be if that pos software crashes so often and gives that stupid line "cubase encountered a problem and needs to close" and corrupts saved projects etc ???
3. For me REAPER is like a customized Land Rover which i can take on a voyage around the world and depend on it to get me back home alive and cubarse is like some old FIAT that would break down in worst possible places few times a day.
Yes i hate one and love the other, yes i am a very experienced PC user (got my first PC about 18 or 19 years ago), so no it was not my fault cubarse was so unstable on my properly configured system.
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Ay caramba !
Ay caramba !
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- KVRist
- 156 posts since 27 Jul, 2008
Why? Why miss out on all the great features that you could get in a superior DAW for the same hypothetical price? Especially when you would hardly be giving up any features in return!hibidy wrote:Yes. And I'd love to have a HondaMarcus797 wrote:Ok I get that Reaper is a great bargain at 60$, it's the best bang-for-your-buck DAW on the market, etc... I get it, I really do.
But you're honestly telling me that if a DAW with far more (and better) features, workflow, etc... like Cubase or Logic was 60$ you would still go with Reaper?!I've already had all of the others, reaper is a very surprising accident on how I got into it. I'm glad I did.
OK fair enough.Mutant wrote: Mutant
1. Workflow depends 75% on the user and 25% on the DAW
Whats your point? There are plenty of people having stability issues with Reaper. But as long as we're using anecdotal "evidence"... I've been running Cubase since Cubase 4 on a variety of different computers with different OSs with lots of different VSTs and have almost never (certainly since C6) run into any stability problems.Mutant wrote: 2. Even if >my< workflow in cubarse was better than in REAPER (from what i remember it was about the same), what good would that be if that pos software crashes so often and gives that stupid line "cubase encountered a problem and needs to close" and corrupts saved projects etc ???
There's only so far you can customize Reaper though. You can't customize yourself a variaudio, note expression, arranger track, tempo track, etc...Mutant wrote: 3. For me REAPER is like a customized Land Rover which i can take on a voyage around the world and depend on it to get me back home alive
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
wowMarcus797 wrote:Why? Why miss out on all the great features that you could get in a superior DAW for the same hypothetical price? Especially when you would hardly be giving up any features in return!hibidy wrote:Yes. And I'd love to have a HondaMarcus797 wrote:Ok I get that Reaper is a great bargain at 60$, it's the best bang-for-your-buck DAW on the market, etc... I get it, I really do.
But you're honestly telling me that if a DAW with far more (and better) features, workflow, etc... like Cubase or Logic was 60$ you would still go with Reaper?!I've already had all of the others, reaper is a very surprising accident on how I got into it. I'm glad I did.
just wow
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- KVRAF
- 3062 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from outer rim
this car analogy thing doesn't seem to ever work no matter what the context
- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
Not simple. Superior trolling. The kind you can only get in a superior thread. Not quite sure this one qualifies, being all hypothetical and stuff. 
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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- KVRAF
- 3062 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from outer rim
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- KVRist
- 156 posts since 27 Jul, 2008
Thats pretty much sums up my reaction to most of the posts in this thread.hibidy wrote:just wow.
Whats wrong with that question in the context of this hypothetical discussion?hibidy wrote: That's true but this is what just twisted my panties.
Is this simply trolling?Why miss out on all the great features that you could get in a superior DAW
