No Im not really concerned with the plugins it has as I have a set of third party stuff I always use. Of course, this is a consideration for many people so it shouldnt be underestimated as part of the Logic package:) In comparison, I love Cubase especially but its plugins are rather mediocre. Ableton, for me, has the best and most creative set of plugs.mcnoone wrote:It would seem then, that you aren't concerned with the "plugins" that a daw has already included.Atardecer wrote:I'd like to know who these so-called pros are. I've had to use pretty much all of the major DAWs in my job and I know most of them pretty well. In my humble experience, I found Logic to be OK. No better or worse. It has some nifty features but lacks others. The price is right though. Actually the DAW that made me unexpectedly salivating was Studio One V2. For me, it kinda took many of the features of other DAWs that I Like (most notably Cubase and Ableton Live) and rolled them into one. But thats just me.
Logics, plugins and samples, are not just "ok".
They are some of the best plugins available anywhere in my opinion and the opinion of many others, regardless of whether they are professionals or amateurs.
There, are few synths, samplers, or fx that sound as good, for the same price range, and out of any other daw.
Studio One2 has some serious cpu usage issues from what I've read about it.
I'm now looking into ProTools to see what plugins it includes, and it looking actually pretty thin, in comparison to Logics plugins, at the moment.
Live only includes plugins with the suite or buying separately, and all of them at an expense much greater than the current LogicPro price.
It sounds like your opinion is not based on that of a long time user, but of a short time user. Which doesn't really give us a good idea of why it's just ok.
As every daw, to someone unfamiliar with it's inner workings, is just ok, as they simply never learned to use it, and to sound more than OK using it.
Lets just ignore the OP's "professionals" for a minute, then realize that Apple has some serious numbers, of increased sales with this daw, and with 2 good reasons.
It's cheaper than most.
It's better than most.
The only ones I've heard disliking it, are non apple computer owners, (in which case I don't even understand why they would post in an apple thread, except to flame-bait) and people who never take the time to learn how to use it, or even tried using it for more than one track, if that.
Logic certainly is cheaper than most. Better? Its a completely subjective answer depending on your needs and working style. For me in particular, it does not suit me. I find its MIDI capabilities not quite up there with Cubase, as an example. Im just saying I havent come across anything revolutionary and quite a bit that seems ironically 'illogical', not that you expect a revolution from your DAW of course. Im both and Apple and PC user, and I love certain things about their products, but dislike others. Both are in evidence in Logic. As far as bang for buck though, I think Logic is one of the best.
Maybe Im not a very long time user and my opinion reflects that but I would say the same regarding your take on Studio One. Its one thing to say youve heard talk and another to say youve experienced it first hand. I've not experienced such issues you speak of, in fact Ive found it to be quite streamlined and efficient, both on PC and Mac. I would definitely rate Logic over Pro Tools however, especially for the folk that typically frequent KVR. Pro Tools is maginficent for many traditional recording tasks, especially audio editing to picture, but a dogs breakfast for MIDI based music. I've always been forced to use PT at film dubs and found it a lifesaver, but I'd never use it for making music as such. But each to their own
Cheers
but let me tell you this, it's not about WHAT you use, it's how you use it.
