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stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:42 am

Here I fiddled around with two Solinas and two Oberheims, plus some drums and a sample vocal, just for a couple of hours... Both are great!

Programming the Matrix12 is really complicated, as I remember my real Matrix6, long time ago

https://soundcloud.com/stardustmedia/deft-bonz-fears

C.Bennett · Post by **C.Bennett** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:50 am

krandr wrote:Wow! I have support ticket for offline activation!

Enjoy the wait. I waited 3+ days after purchase with no reply what-so-ever. This was after pinging them twice publicly via Twitter (again, with no response). I eventually hooked up my offline machine to the internet to activate it. I then closed the support ticket and noted my frustration. I got this in reply:

The offline activation process is still under work by our Dev Team and should be functional around the middle of next week. Please recontact us by then.

Thank you for your understanding.

Arturia really need to improve their customer support and ensure their activation system is working properly before launching a new product/collection.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:07 am

deft_bonz wrote:
Programming the Matrix12 is really complicated, as I remember my real Matrix6, long time ago

I found that while it has tons of features the interface is well laid out IMO and it is more simple to get something done than i expected (if you learned the basics of the interface...).

I prefer programing the modulations using the buttons at the main GUI in combination with the modulation page at the center of the GUI instead of diectöy programming those in the mod matrix page.

Anyway it is nice that could could replace the keyboard dispaly with the mod matrix page to get a better overview of the modulations. It is also nice that those parameter buttons that have a mod source assigned do show a small green dot (or "LED"). Besides the mod matrix this is another way to see which parameters are modulated. It's also quite simple to see which parameters could not be modulated as those do only ishow the paramter name but no button (e.g. "Filter Mode").

Some things work different in Matarix-12V like e.g. using the Lag generator for doing portamento but once you know this it is quite simple to do. Also using names like "Lever 1" for the Modwheel and "Lever 2" for the Pitchwheel could be a bit confusing at the beginning.

Except the dedicated Vibrato LFO (at the Voices page) there seem to be very few "hard-wired" modulation sources. This i why e.g. the Filter enveleope, Amp envelope and also filter keytracking need on of the slots in the mod matrix. Based on that it's good that Arturia included 40 (2 x 20) mod matrix slots instead of 20 like in teh original synth. While usually 20 slots should be enough this is good for those who want to use lots of modulations.

I also tried to use a Ramp (instead of an envelope) for pitch modulation in a Sync patch which could work quite nicely too. If the pitch should go down you have to invert the Ramp by using a negative mod amount.

The Unison in combination with the detailed voice programmer could be very useful too. This way you could even add a kind of Sub-Osc if you set one or more voices of the Unison to one or two octaves lower.

Ingo

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:25 pm

The Matrix 12 sounds are nice but still sounds like the same synth out of Arturia to me.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:47 pm

Slap Nomad Factory's Magnetic on any synth and it adds that extra 'fat analog magic'

I use it for those synths that sound on the puny side, of course you could use your favourite combo of Eq and Comp

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:00 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:The Matrix 12 sounds are nice but still sounds like the same synth out of Arturia to me.

Which one? I certainly find many diferences between them. And you certainly don't find the sound editing possibilities offered by the Matrix anywhere else.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:46 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:The Matrix 12 sounds are nice but still sounds like the same synth out of Arturia to me.

maybe its just the sem-v's DSP code with a matrix-12 GUI slapped over it?

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:48 pm

rustman · Post by **rustman** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:52 pm

All I know is that I fell in love with the SEM yesterday. Perfect icing for a track I was working on.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:13 am

rustman wrote:All I know is that I fell in love with the SEM yesterday. Perfect icing for a track I was working on.

Love is a strong word, but I think that SEM is one of Arturia's best efforts. I also like the iProphet. I think that it goes beyond the sound though. The Matrix 12 interface had value in a cost cutting hardware world, but to me, the restrictions today, largely in the interest of authenticity, seem silly.

It's not hard to use because it's a complex synth, it's hard to use because it's a complex synth implemented in a way that saved money on the production lines, worked within the limits of contemporary technology, and satisfied most customers of the time.

The SEM interface, on the other hand, is classic knob per function and that is still very appropriate today. It's probably the only Arturia user interface that I really like, although, I don't think that Analog Factory was bad for a preset synth.

Sparky77 · Post by **Sparky77** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:02 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:The Matrix 12 sounds are nice but still sounds like the same synth out of Arturia to me.

Arturia gets a bad rap here I have noticed that, but if you cant hear ANY difference between the CS-80, SEM and Matric 12 then maybe its best to stick one of the free synths.

On the other hand those 3 synths are distantly different and stand up to many of the vintage emulations.

For me it was a $100 upgrade for 3 cool synths and a updated drum machine.

Beside being a pain to download its a no brainer.

rustman · Post by **rustman** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:05 am

I'm not jaded by having had the hardware. I'm coming at thos like a wide-eyed child where everything is new, sorta. I know all of these sounds from a lifetime of music listening, but I can't (yet) tell you which classic synth made them. I'm getting pleasant surprises along the way as I hear something familiar or classic coming out of one of them.

Sparky77 · Post by **Sparky77** » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:19 am

rustman wrote:I'm not jaded by having had the hardware. I'm coming at thos like a wide-eyed child where everything is new, sorta. I know all of these sounds from a lifetime of music listening, but I can't (yet) tell you which classic synth made them. I'm getting pleasant surprises along the way as I hear something familiar or classic coming out of one of them.

I agree, if it works it works.
In reality, my guess is very few posters really owned the original hardware.

So, it really comes down to how you like it and if it works for you.
I like what im hearing, thats what I trust.

Franvu · Post by **Franvu** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:46 am

VariKusBrainZ wrote:Slap Nomad Factory's Magnetic on any synth and it adds that extra 'fat analog magic'

I use it for those synths that sound on the puny side, of course you could use your favourite combo of Eq and Comp

I think that if you need to put a plugin after a virtual synth, it means that the synth isn't good.

Even so, Arturia plugins sounds very good but are more difficult to learn than modern virtual synths. I don't want another engineering study to understand the matrix.

They have similar sounding. True, like most the synths have (B&B sounds and more).

This post has monopolized by Matrix 12, what do you think about Solina? Solina's patches do not surprise me much but I love VOX Continental V patches.

Cheers.

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:07 am

Solina sounds great. Had a lot of fun playing with it and designing my own sounds...

Here you can hear the Solina:
https://soundcloud.com/stardustmedia/deft-bonz-fears

A litte just for fun late night session song

Two instances of Solina play the melody string from the beginning and then the bass-like legato playing the low legato note and the extra melody. No extra effects added except the inbuilt ensemble, nor EQ nor compression on the tracks.

Arturia's new plugins : Solina V and Matrix 12V