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hivkorn wrote:cubase 9 not compatible with OSX 10.10.x ?!!!!!
10.11 minimum.. They're brave heh

Kinda absurd they choose El Capitan as baseline, 10.11 deserve a special place in hell for audio plugin UI issues

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Robert Randolph wrote:
jlaws wrote:That's a bit disappointing...
Mixer undo is disappointing?
And a completely reworked GUI, and a built-in sampler and track. :P

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softska wrote:
hivkorn wrote:cubase 9 not compatible with OSX 10.10.x ?!!!!!
10.11 minimum.. They're brave heh

Kinda absurd they choose El Capitan as baseline, 10.11 deserve a special place in hell for audio plugin UI issues
okay :tu: for reply.

My money will go in Geist 2 upgrade...No way i upgrade my OS for a few 'news features' i don't need.

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I assume the lower payments for step upgrades is really just a marketing thing. It used to be that I would expect a hit of $200 - $250 for the annual (or so) upgrades. Breaking it down into smaller $100 increments for the X.5 releases keeps the value roughly the same, but also allows for a more even cash flow on Steinberg's side, I would imagine.

Regardless, $100 makes it easy to hop on right away.

Cheers
-B
Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...

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chk071 wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:
jlaws wrote:That's a bit disappointing...
Mixer undo is disappointing?
And a completely reworked GUI, and a built-in sampler and track. :P
Well... those things are disappointing.

Actually, seems everything except mixer undo is. :cry:

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hivkorn wrote:
softska wrote:
hivkorn wrote:cubase 9 not compatible with OSX 10.10.x ?!!!!!
10.11 minimum.. They're brave heh

Kinda absurd they choose El Capitan as baseline, 10.11 deserve a special place in hell for audio plugin UI issues
okay :tu: for reply.

My money will go in Geist 2 upgrade...No way i upgrade my OS for a few 'news features' i don't need.


That reminds me...I have to upgrade to Geist 2, too.
May FXpansion will have a holiday sale this year.

-B
Berfab
So many plugins, so little time...

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Scotty wrote:Brent if someone has zero issues with Cubase they aren't trying hard enough. There is a confirmed bug list on their own Steinberg Forum.
I didn't say there weren't any bugs. But I was replying to a post where Cubase was referred to as not working. And I know plenty of people who have had virtually no related issues. The bugs don't affect everyone. My list of things I want for Cubase have nothing to do with bugs, but features. I had one crash with Cubase while trying to render in place when I first tried 8.5. But otherwise, nothing has gotten in my way, and I couldn't even tell you which bugs are there because they haven't affected me.

But again, keep what I said in context of incubus's post. I definitely don't think Cubase is bug free. Just that a lot of people who use it every day don't have any issues that stop them from using it, and some people, believe it or not, don't encounter bugs depending on how they use the program.

Brent
My host is better than your host

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Robert Randolph wrote:
chk071 wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:
jlaws wrote:That's a bit disappointing...
Mixer undo is disappointing?
And a completely reworked GUI, and a built-in sampler and track. :P
Well... those things are disappointing.

Actually, seems everything except mixer undo is. :cry:
Everything apart from the stuff i wanted them to implement is a disapointment. :P

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chk071 wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:
chk071 wrote:
Robert Randolph wrote:
jlaws wrote:That's a bit disappointing...
Mixer undo is disappointing?
And a completely reworked GUI, and a built-in sampler and track. :P
Well... those things are disappointing.

Actually, seems everything except mixer undo is. :cry:
Everything apart from the stuff i wanted them to implement is a disapointment. :P
Well duh? That's what disappointment is, having your expectations or desires unmet.

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As for the Cubase 9 release itself, it isn't a huge update in terms of groundbreaking features. But I don't think I expected it to be. I don't know if I'll have a use for the Sampler track (though I'm sure I can find something to do with it), but the docked editors and mixer has been my #1 biggest request for Cubase. That alone is worth the money for me.

What I like about the lower zone, even though it isn't a revolutionary feature, is that it is so well thought out. It is clean. They didn't just throw a dockable area there and expect you to dock the entirety of every editor into it. They created unique versions of each editor and the mixer to fit into it. THAT is what I love about Cubase. Features are thought out and not just tacked on. I've had a frustration with more than one host (Reaper and Sonar come to mind, though less Sonar as of late as they slowly rework things) where nothing seems cohesive. In some hosts, when you dock an editor, you're fighting between the convenience of the docker and the wasted space used up in the docker by trying to fit a full-screen window into a docked pane.

So I love that they have integrated the normal inspector area to work alongside the docker. I love that if feels like it is supposed to be there. I'm guessing that this took a lot of reworking of interface code over the years for Steinberg. So while this may not be the earth shattering feature some people wanted, it is a big deal to me.

There is very little that Cubase can't do. Sure, it has some feature holes. But probably less than most other hosts. When I left Cubase back in version 6.5, it was purely because of workflow issues. I didn't like the terrible window system where opening one window would un-maximize another, I didn't like how the media bay was a clunky huge window you had to place on top of everything else, I didn't like how you couldn't dock anything, I didn't like how you had to choose carefully which inspector sections you wanted open, etc. They have addressed all those issues. I got back into Cubase with 8.5 after purchasing from somebody here on KVR, and now I'm going to show my support for the direction Steinberg is going by upgrading. They may not be the perfect company, but they make an amazing product that is built for creativity, well thought-out, and as feature packed as any host out there. And that makes the upgrade worth it for me.

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled programming and I'm done with the mini infomercial, lol. Will likely upgrade later today and post my thoughts once I've played around with it.

Brent
My host is better than your host

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koolkeys wrote:As for the Cubase 9 release itself, it isn't a huge update in terms of groundbreaking features. But I don't think I expected it to be. I don't know if I'll have a use for the Sampler track (though I'm sure I can find something to do with it), but the docked editors and mixer has been my #1 biggest request for Cubase. That alone is worth the money for me.

What I like about the lower zone, even though it isn't a revolutionary feature, is that it is so well thought out. It is clean. They didn't just throw a dockable area there and expect you to dock the entirety of every editor into it. They created unique versions of each editor and the mixer to fit into it. THAT is what I love about Cubase. Features are thought out and not just tacked on. I've had a frustration with more than one host (Reaper and Sonar come to mind, though less Sonar as of late as they slowly rework things) where nothing seems cohesive. In some hosts, when you dock an editor, you're fighting between the convenience of the docker and the wasted space used up in the docker by trying to fit a full-screen window into a docked pane.

So I love that they have integrated the normal inspector area to work alongside the docker. I love that if feels like it is supposed to be there. I'm guessing that this took a lot of reworking of interface code over the years for Steinberg. So while this may not be the earth shattering feature some people wanted, it is a big deal to me.

There is very little that Cubase can't do. Sure, it has some feature holes. But probably less than most other hosts. When I left Cubase back in version 6.5, it was purely because of workflow issues. I didn't like the terrible window system where opening one window would un-maximize another, I didn't like how the media bay was a clunky huge window you had to place on top of everything else, I didn't like how you couldn't dock anything, I didn't like how you had to choose carefully which inspector sections you wanted open, etc. They have addressed all those issues. I got back into Cubase with 8.5 after purchasing from somebody here on KVR, and now I'm going to show my support for the direction Steinberg is going by upgrading. They may not be the perfect company, but they make an amazing product that is built for creativity, well thought-out, and as feature packed as any host out there. And that makes the upgrade worth it for me.

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled programming and I'm done with the mini infomercial, lol. Will likely upgrade later today and post my thoughts once I've played around with it.

Brent
+1

You know, when I watched that video and saw they had finally put the damned transport bar along the bottom I was excited for that feature alone. I waste a lot of time moving that thing around, LOL.

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So, I bought the 8.5 upgrade a while back, but never activated it.

Can I still activate it when the eLicenser server becomes available, and have the grace period apply for the upgrade to Cubase 9?

Thanks!

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CastIronShore wrote:So, I bought the 8.5 upgrade a while back, but never activated it.

Can I still activate it when the eLicenser server becomes available, and have the grace period apply for the upgrade to Cubase 9?

Thanks!
Yes. I've just done that.

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softska wrote:
hivkorn wrote:cubase 9 not compatible with OSX 10.10.x ?!!!!!
10.11 minimum.. They're brave heh

Kinda absurd they choose El Capitan as baseline, 10.11 deserve a special place in hell for audio plugin UI issues
Crazy !!!
Mac Studio M4
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Cubase 15, Ableton Live 12

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Great! Thanks!
Sahul wrote:
CastIronShore wrote:So, I bought the 8.5 upgrade a while back, but never activated it.

Can I still activate it when the eLicenser server becomes available, and have the grace period apply for the upgrade to Cubase 9?

Thanks!
Yes. I've just done that.

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