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[blueman]

If you own JamStix, you owe it to yourself to grab the v3 beta and load an OWD kit. You will not be disappointed!

What's the learning curve for JamStix? It looks interesting but somewhat complicated I guess the new interface should help that? Looks like we have few fans in here anyway...

[Mattiiiii]

any idea on where to put the 150 MIDI grooves?

One good location to put it is the EZplayer Pro which we will get in phase 3.

I couldn't wait and already ordered it, so I can choose one GB kit more instead. It is really an inspiring tool, and it goes very well with the kits.

[oddgrooves]

any idea on where to put the 150 MIDI grooves?

One good location to put it is the EZplayer Pro which we will get in phase 3.

I couldn't wait and already ordered it, so I can choose one GB kit more instead. It is really an inspiring tool, and it goes very well with the kits.

In EZplayer Pro you can add a path to anywhere on your hard drive. I use my EZdrummer home folder for all MIDI. It's starting to get pretty big

Per

[Milt]

Hey, Blueman, yes the learning curve on Jamstix can be a little steep, but believe me, it is well worth it. I love it after having done all my drum tracks myself on a keyboard before I got Jamstix. It's amazing how good and simple drum track creation is now.

[GlebeGreg]

Hey, Blueman, yes the learning curve on Jamstix can be a little steep, but believe me, it is well worth it. I love it after having done all my drum tracks myself on a keyboard before I got Jamstix. It's amazing how good and simple drum track creation is now.

Would you agree Milt that the curve is as steep as you want it to be? Just picking a stlye or a entire song and letting Jamstix generate everything is very straightforward. You can then tweak absolutely anything you like and get as complicated as you.

I suspect you use it at a much more detailed and advanced level to me. But even with the simple way I use it - I completely agree that the combination of Jamstix and the OWD kits is superb.

Greg

[DrApostropheX]

If you own JamStix, you owe it to yourself to grab the v3 beta and load an OWD kit. You will not be disappointed!

What's the learning curve for JamStix? It looks interesting but somewhat complicated I guess the new interface should help that? Looks like we have few fans in here anyway...

To really get into the meat of the Jamstix drum brain (mmmm... drummm brainnnn) to the point where you're creating patterns from scratch, you'll need to invest some time. But, to just select a music style and a drummer (which really does impact the way the style is played) and move some of the sliders to adjust the frequency of the snare, or whatever, really doesn't take much time at all (as a beginner, you can have a whole song put together in about 20 minutes... then comes the tweaking). In my experience, it took less time to learn Jamstix than it did to go through a directory of MIDI drum patterns and find one that's kind of close to what I was looking for.

[Jind]

I've had Jamstix since version 1 and I still find things under the hood that I did not know existed - but once you get over the initial fear of all the pages, all the options, it really is easy to learn. It will work basically straight out of the box (well download) and you can learn much more as you go along. I remember the first time I did a Jam with it playing along - I thought it was the coolest thing ever (I still pretty much think it's the coolest thing ever.)

It's well worth the price and Ralph is perhaps the best developer out there in regards to support - he really listens to his customers and responds to emails so quick your head will spin. Companies like Rayzoon and Sonic Reality really get customers and their needs.

If you own JamStix, you owe it to yourself to grab the v3 beta and load an OWD kit. You will not be disappointed!

What's the learning curve for JamStix? It looks interesting but somewhat complicated I guess the new interface should help that? Looks like we have few fans in here anyway...

To really get into the meat of the Jamstix drum brain (mmmm... drummm brainnnn) to the point where you're creating patterns from scratch, you'll need to invest some time. But, to just select a music style and a drummer (which really does impact the way the style is played) and move some of the sliders to adjust the frequency of the snare, or whatever, really doesn't take much time at all (as a beginner, you can have a whole song put together in about 20 minutes... then comes the tweaking). In my experience, it took less time to learn Jamstix than it did to go through a directory of MIDI drum patterns and find one that's kind of close to what I was looking for.

[Photo_G]

What's the learning curve for JamStix? It looks interesting but somewhat complicated...

Blueman,

I found the version 2 interface to be a bit convoluted, but version 3 makes it much more intuitive and adds some automation features that speed up base groove creation. The complexity comes in, as the others have said, when you want to manually modify the patterns, customize the kits, adjust the outputs, etc. All of this depth is possible and pretty well documented, but not required to have a blast with it. No other tool makes you feel like you are jamming with a real drummer like this one. Also, the lead developer and forum community do their level best to make sure that you get the answers that you need quickly...although maybe not as quickly as Squidz.

[Milt]

I would agree, that's one reason I like it so much. Some tracks I leave the Jamstix creation virtually alone, and on some I make a lot of edits and changes after Jamstix has created the basics.

[Reverend Rhythm]

Since all our issues go to Allen or the support thread (or the Vital info thread), why don't we discuss these drum kits? I'm curious about your opinions. Do you have a favorite kit? Bass drum? snare?

I don't have Jamstix, so you'll have to carry that discussion on without me. And I don't play the drums, so any V-drums discussion is beyond me. But lovin' these drums! I'm there!

And to all...

You can still purchase the group buy!

esounz name:

[megadude]

One thing I am still unsure about is whether I should get the EZplayer. I like to make my own midi drum beats. I don't like using loops or preplayed midi files. I'll take a look at the oddgrooves to study what they are doing (never played drums in, e.g., 9/8 before), but I won't use them in the context of an original song.

When I make my own drumbeats, i finger drum, but I am thinking about getting some sort of drum/midi interface down the road. I am using Logic Pro 8, and besides downloading the BFD demo, I have no other drum software besides what comes with logic.

Given all this, how useful is EZplayer likely to be to me? Based on what I can gather from its description, it doesn't seem like it will be that useful. But I am unfamiliar with a lot of what is out there. Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated. Thank you.

[sockofgold]

Since all our issues go to Allen or the support thread (or the Vital info thread), why don't we discuss these drum kits? I'm curious about your opinions. Do you have a favorite kit? Bass drum? snare?

esounz name:

I have only tried 3 or 4 four of them so far, and I am pretty pleased with them. The dynamics are a little weird, though. The drums are kind of weak and floppy and low velocities, but full of baby-smashing godliness at high velocities. I had to use the velocity plugin in Live to increase the vel. curve a bit, just because I was having a tough tone getting them to play like I wanted. They just seem to favor lower velocities, and we all know that everything has to be ungodly loud at all times (that last part is satire, obviously, but I do think the kits sound significantly better near the top of the velocity spectrum than the bottom).

The sound is very nice, though. I'm glad I joined, and I'm excited to try the rest of them when I have time. I think this will probably be my new go-to, rather than ezDrummer/Addictive.

[Mattiiiii]

Given all this, how useful is EZplayer likely to be to me?

My impression is that EZPlayer is a great tool to use MIDI files for drum beat constructions, and to organize such files and use it with different samplers (e.g., with the OWD kits, with Battery, etc.).

If you are not using MIDI files at all, this tool is of very little use to you, I guess. So I would rather get another GB drum kit if I were you.

[hydemusic]

Since all our issues go to Allen or the support thread (or the Vital info thread), why don't we discuss these drum kits? I'm curious about your opinions. Do you have a favorite kit? Bass drum? snare?

I don't have Jamstix, so you'll have to carry that discussion on without me. And I don't play the drums, so any V-drums discussion is beyond me. But lovin' these drums! I'm there!

And to all...

You can still purchase the group buy!

esounz name:

So far I like them all especially KIT 10 on the snare rolls? These kits are really awesome in sounds. I got the Odd Groove GB, couln't resist but I guess I need the EZ player PRO to play them. Hopefully later tonight or tomorrow we can begin the Phase II download. I'm psyched

[popmoney]

http://www.toontrack.com/tv.asp?channel ... &item=60#1

That video should answer all of your questions
Edit . @ megadude