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Jason Brian Merrill · Post by **Jason Brian Merrill** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:13 am

http://stashbox.org/uploads/1152756856/01--02.wav

there is the real unprocessed one.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:18 am

When I get home from work, I myself will load that into my host and loop it and expiriment. I won't get the results you want most likely. But it will help me really learn while not playing, and just knob turning. This may also help with the sampling project.

Brent

Jason Brian Merrill · Post by **Jason Brian Merrill** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:35 am

one of the things i like about freeamp is it seems to have a responsiveness to it... which is nice. But if that responsiveness also is combined with muddiness... forget it.

so, just so you all dont think im just bashing it, i actually like a certain aspect of its modeling.

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:47 am

Does this require SSE to run? All it did on my system was crash.

alex zonder · Post by **alex zonder** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:02 am

Jason Brian Merrill wrote: just show me what you love so much about freeamp... i dont see it... it would rock to have a usable free ampsim vst.

Jason, from the REAPER forum I know that you're a Guitar Rig 2 user. Is it really so bad that you're looking for a free alternative now? Be sure to let the guys at Native Instruments know that their expensive software sucks.

t-willy · Post by **t-willy** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:08 am

i just did this in 15 minutes

(as is obvious I'm sure)

FreeAmp2 t-willy test

4 guitar tracks - 4 instances of FreeAmp2

1 bass track - 1 instance of FreeAmp2

BFD e-drumming!

T-racks compression and EQ
Classic comp and TLS Maximizer also used

FreeAmp2 is fun as hell to play around with and if the proper time is spent, could produce some killer tones.

lates

t-willy

Jason Brian Merrill · Post by **Jason Brian Merrill** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:17 am

alex zonder wrote:
Jason Brian Merrill wrote: just show me what you love so much about freeamp... i dont see it... it would rock to have a usable free ampsim vst.
Jason, from the REAPER forum I know that you're a Guitar Rig 2 user. Is it really so bad that you're looking for a free alternative now? Be sure to let the guys at Native Instruments know that their expensive software sucks.

the more tools in your arsenal the better

its the same reason im interested in REAPER.

i have FLstudio and Samplitude, but i like seeing this free software come out....

i didnt say GR2 was bad. Actually its probably the best rectified tones i have heard in a sim so far. The marshall sounds, i dunno...

I also have a podxt... what does that mean then?

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:26 am

Jason Brian Merrill wrote:EDIT

not worth it.

ok but maybe a bit toned down

grymmjack wrote:it's getting funny again now.

'good tone' is very subjective. i can achieve a pretty good bluesy sounding tone, a great clean sound, some great leads, and a good gain sound (atleast to my oldschool butt0x). so i like this and all that happy crappy. these tones are probably not going to be what others like, but i don't give a rats ass about that tbh, it's about what i want it to sound like and i'm not trying to emulate anything fancy here, just basic stuff.

i don't think it's very productive or useful to spar about ones opinion over anothers. muddy, GC (what does that mean?), blablabla, it seriously all starts to turn into a pissing contest about OPINIONs. it is charlie browns teacher on the phone.. wah wuh wuh wuhwuhwuhwuh wuh.

jbm; considering that FA2 was built by an oldschooler, it's going to have that oldschool flavor that a great many people dig, while obviously the nuskool people will about. this is fine right? i mean, it's fair to have diversity and things that excel at certain 'feels' etc? if you don't like it, i'd say don't use it. no one will have hurt feelings about it, it's not intended to be the be-all-end-all every-sound-possible kind of plug, it's intended to do what it currently does, and it pulls that off pretty damned well.

it's all so inane and banal now. we've gone over this tone debate for pages in this beta thread and the conclusions have been made, so can we all move on and keep testing this? joe has mentioned it's a evolution in progress, which means he is open minded about making adjustments and changes.

go ahead and delete the DLL if it's causing you grief of this magnitude though, it's clear that those who aren't into the current sound it can make aren't going to find it somewhere secretly locked up inside, atleast in it's current state. maybe it's best to just give up and stop wasting time trying to get blood from a stone, and dial in for instant gratification with your AT2, AT1, GR2, or pod*.*'s

your absence certainly wont bother any of us i can assure you, and i'm not saying that in a mean or cruel way, just a fact of the matter fashion as one would state the current time: "it's 7:07 PM eastern standard time"
I still say you all are so amazingly sensitive about this all...

Its not causing me any grief -- I just showed interest and wanted to try out a nice offering (free, wow!)

you think i want instant gratification? Well, funny. I actually just want an amp sim that sounds decent, without alot of tweaking. Then what you can do is tweak further and fine tune that tone until its perfect, just like a real amp. perhaps you can show me a clip of your blues tones -- something with life to it. IMO freeamp just sounds like garbage no matter what you do. And i have yet to have heard anything to the contrary.

Im oldskool AND nuskool. I like em both. From elvis to opeth .... Elvis in the mud or Opeth in the mud, either sounds like crap. Oldschool or "nuskool" it doesnt matter. mud is mud.

Im offering my constructive criticism and never meant to cause anyone any emotional stress and apparently i am causing it....

All im asking is for tips on how to get a halfway decent sound, or a preset, or a clip or something.

just show me what you love so much about freeamp... i dont see it... it would rock to have a usable free ampsim vst.

i'm not sensitive about it, i promise. i'm just tired of reading this OT stuff in a thread about finding bugs.

anyway, you are kidding about the tips part? it's this: pick a amp, a cab, tune the head to give you what you look for, adjust the mic on the amp, add effects to taste. i usually start by picking amp, cab, setup head, add compressors, readjust head, posititon mic, add effects, tweak...

sounds like you have a beef with the eq or chub. chub adds bass response (on the attack i believe), .. the amp and cab models are pretty diverse, but i surely would love some more. my fav is the green one, open back.

hehe, i promise you that i'm not sensitive. i appreciate your opinion as just an opinion, and everyones is diff. no hard feelings here for diff opinion.

obviously me standards are lower since i've never been a seeker of tone, always found something nice even on hardware and used that consistently. 1 heavy, 1 lead, 1 crunch, a handful of cleans, etc.. i'm good with that.

i didn't see what was there before the edit, but if it was insulting or something you can go ahead and put it back. we're all adults here.

anyway, good luck with your experiments FA2 or otherwise.

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:27 am

alex, there is a similar tone of your posts in this and one other thread. Is it against the rules to want options? It seems like it.

grymmjack · Post by **grymmjack** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:28 am

koolkeys wrote:I think this is great for me. I am a newer electric guitar player(thanks to Grymmjack!) and it's provided me a very good way to experiment. I love it. My wife and I are having to save right now and buying a good amp isn't an option, or GR2 or AT2.

But for FSA to provide something like this to me FOR FREE, I couldn't be happier. Something about it makes me WANT to play my guitar.

I've heard a Marshall, but can't tell you exactly what it sounds like. I hope to learn, and probably will, as I'll be starting some work with some people soon on a sample library where it may come into play.

But to me, this is awesome. It SOUNDS good to me. Thank you to all who are involved.

Brent

kk, you have fresh eyes/fresh ears approach, which is good. i strive for that myself. main thing is play alot

koolkeys · Post by **koolkeys** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:30 am

I've been taking my acoustics to work and practicing! That's the advantage of working at a radio station and being the only one there!

I can't take FA2 with me, but I HAVE taken the DC3 with me also, to show off to those who were leaving and to get used to it.

Brent

Jason Brian Merrill · Post by **Jason Brian Merrill** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:33 am

grymmjack wrote:

i didn't see what was there before the edit, but if it was insulting or something you can go ahead and put it back. we're all adults here.

anyway, good luck with your experiments FA2 or otherwise.

nah, its just that i dont want to come off in the wrong way. its all good.

im trying to refine my internet manners

people seem to misunderstand me often.

matthewjumps · Post by **matthewjumps** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:11 am

JBM - i dled the wv and am workin on getting a similar tone out of Freeamp

one thing - just remember, freeamp comes with a bunch of different amp types (Crunch, Smooth, Natural, Harmonic?, CrackTube, Drive etc), a bunch of differnt speaker types, other controls like chub, vari a/c, drive, eq, and then theres microphone placement control (and we all know how much that can affect sound).

Thats just in the amp section. add to that the distortion pedal with its range of distortion types, drive, tone and chub controls - and the possible combinations are almost endless.

I wish i knew what "crack-tube" was...I wish i knew what crunch was - but ill bet that in Freeamp - even if you did know what it was - it may not sound like you expect.

the point? freeamp is capable of the tones you want. bitey. crisp non muddy whatever. its just the task now of knowing your amp. of knowing what each different type does, and how it works in combination with all the other params like eq, microphone, distortion pedals etc....

anyway, i know nothing about amps - all i know is how things sound. i listen to that marshall clip you posted and am certain i can get that sound out of freeamp. its just finding what settings to use that is the doozy

also - while using freeamp - if you think its too muddy or whatever - try turning off all the stomps except for distortion and compressors - ill bet the chorus and reverb wont help you with the sound your after

Jason Brian Merrill · Post by **Jason Brian Merrill** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:12 am

cool! thanks for the input.

I am sorry tho, this thread is being derailed.... grymmjack is right, this thread is for betatesting...

sorry for that..

shall i start a different thread?

Jason Brian Merrill · Post by **Jason Brian Merrill** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:27 am

hmmm, i dunno almost half this thread has to do with the sounds already.

anyway, one phenomenon i hear with this is the old "wah wah" sound.... its like when an amp gets too high gain, it suddenly sounds like there is a wah wah like halfway up on it.

its the same thing that the 505 suffered from.

i do however, like the "contour" control on the amp, as well as the chub and variac controls so easily available. great ideass.

FreeAmp2 beta testing started