KVR Audio

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:11 pm

Guess the mouse wasn't 192khz/32-bit ready!

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:12 pm

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:15 pm

Shit! I'm using an Intellimouse Explorer 1.0 from 2000! WTF is wrong with me? My mixes will so not be pro!

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:15 pm

Good question as to which ones I'd like to hear maybe 4ormulator, Eliosound vocoder, Camel5000, Prosonic Morph, DCVocoder, DtBlkFxS, shapee..

Dayl · Post by **Dayl** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:44 pm

Lagrange wrote:jackson I forgot to mention that the strain upsampling will put on your system WILL attack mouse drivers and circetry..

L

Shh, I hope that my trust Athlon XP 2000 didnt hear that!

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:59 pm

jackson wrote:

you never answered my post!

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:01 am

laputa_sync wrote:
jackson wrote:
you never answered my post!

What? Let me have a look... This one?

laputa_sync wrote:um, i had left the thread.....
so that means i is a "douc.... whatever thing".

i never realized.

I thought it was pretty clear who I was talking about, and it wasn't you.

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:02 am

YAY!!!

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:02 am

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:19 am

jackson wrote:
laputa_sync wrote:
jackson wrote:
you never answered my post!
What? Let me have a look... This one?

laputa_sync wrote:um, i had left the thread.....
so that means i is a "douc.... whatever thing".

i never realized.
I thought it was pretty clear who I was talking about, and it wasn't you.

ewww can we not talk about this right now as my wife is.. well you know.. gahhkk..

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:46 am

Lagrange wrote:ewww can we not talk about this right now as my wife is.. well you know.. gahhkk..

Mine too! On top of that, trying out these vocoders has been really frustrating and annoying. Sorry, I'm not going to bother putting any samples up tonight.

I went through your list of requests and tried 4ormulator, ELS, DtBlkFxS and also tested Orange. Couldn't find DCVocoder (where's it gone?) or shapee(never heard of it). Morph doesn't have a demo and their audio snippets sound far worse than their Orange Vocoder. Camel5000 looked like too much work to try out real quick.

All of them rely on the sample rate for pitch information, so you have to play an octave lower at 88Khz than 44Khz, and manually retune them a few notes/Hz if you play at 96Khz. Pretty crap. Well, I didn't give DtBclkalskm23 or whatever the hell it's called a chance because it's interface is about as convoluted as it's filename. For the love of god, 8 character filenames are so 80's.

So... 4ormulator sounded like absolute shit, ELS crashed Live and DtBlkFxS made me want to cry. Orange Vocoder sounded exactly like it does, just like Orange Vocoder

Before ELS crashed and I finally gave up, it was certainly the best of the bunch, but I was getting alot of unmusical clipping, it chewed up 50% of my E6600 CPU and the stupid demo sine sweep drove me bonkers. And $250? Gimme a break. Did it sound different at higher rates, couldn't tell because I kept having to retune it each time I changed sample rate. Once it crashed a couple of times I gave up.

The only vocoder I've tried recently I really liked was Waves' one. Don't own it, but I got to use it in a track of mine recently, and it really sounds beautiful. I used to like Logic's too, but sadly moved on when they gave us PC users the cattleprod up the ass.

Well, don't I sound like a bitter old git?

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:11 am

jackson ok sounds(?) good.. I'm assuming that with OVC you did'nt try to EXTERNAL sources but the internal synth waves? I'm wondering more about using 2 externals with the vocoder engine at the upsampled rate..

With regards to Waves I think my boss owns it (he owns a lot of Waves plugs).. Were you using it at the 96khz?

Let me know

L

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:28 am

Lagrange wrote:jackson ok sounds(?) good.. I'm assuming that with OVC you did'nt try to EXTERNAL sources but the internal synth waves? I'm wondering more about using 2 externals with the vocoder engine at the upsampled rate..

With regards to Waves I think my boss owns it (he owns a lot of Waves plugs).. Were you using it at the 96khz?

Let me know

L

Yeah, I was using internal waves in Orange. I like to use vocoders to generate synth lines out of beats.

Looks like the waves vocoder bit was recorded at 88Khz.

Dayl · Post by **Dayl** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:58 am

Lotsa good info on the topic here guys. the man knows what he is talking about.

FYI

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:03 pm

I have the Wendy Carlos theme trumphantly blaring in my head as I read this...

...but excuse my ignorance; why the link to http://www.lavryengineering.com/index_html.html ?

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