Introducing AmpliTube 3.5 Custom Shop

[hibidy]

So I've discovered another wee problem, but this time with the standard 32-bit version. The scroll wheel doesn't work on the Browser when running inside Reaper but it works fine in Ableton Live & in Standalone.

That's something that seems to be working here (under the bridge) but of course (and it never has) it does not in X1 or 8.5.3

I'm just too lazy right now to be bothered with a long explanation of all the things that are wrong...it's like "meh, if you actually tested it with REAL testers (you know, people who use it??) you'd have caught all this"

It's a really touchy thing for me, can you tell?

[heffus]

And yeah, this SUX.

Jim

PS - I read through all the posts on this thread and all I have to say to IK is, "You have got to be kidding"? There are quite a few of us who WILL NOT EVER connect our DAW to the internet. Now, how I am supposed to get access to my purchased products? Can I uninstall 3.5 and go back to the latest earliest version of 3.x? You guys didn't learn a thing from your past horror shows.

+1

+2. I can't believe this whole "screw you if you aren't connected to the net" thing ever got past the focus group.

[jkleban]

Update... was able to uninstall 3.5 and revert back to 3.x... all is well. Except: IK wasted three hours of my time f%cking around with their BOZO software.

Jim

[marvotron]

one other minor gripe to add to the list, the trial period of 2 days for a piece of custom gear is annoyingly short. it would make a lot more sense to time the trial by amount of usage not just 2 days from when you click go, like with Sonic Charge products where you get 3 weeks of usage during the trial.

in the end i got about an hours worth of usage out of the soldano during my trial period. im still not sure about it so i'll have to wait 2 months to see if i am sure and hope that during those 2 days nothing comes up which stops me from using the 2 days trial as much as I want.

[Peevy2000]

It's a really touchy thing for me, can you tell?

Indeed I can & I'm a bit pissed at the lack of preparedness on IKMMs part here. It seem that they put most of their efforts into the custom chop instead of distributing their efforts equally between the custom shop & the plugins themselves which should be deemed as the most important part of the package really. I would have thought they'd have paid extra special attention to the 64-bit version of Amplitube, saying as its their first endeavour into the 64-bit realm

Just a bit of topic, One other thing I noticed by watching demo videos from plugin devs like IKMM. most of them are using Macs (I've nothing against Mac BTW) Although I'm sure they test everything thoroughly on Windows before release..........or do they

As long as they get it sorted soon I'll be happy enough with that. Apart from these few teething problems I quite like the whole Custom Shop idea, although already having AT3 & AT Fender means I have most of the gear in the shop but there's still a few gems floating about.

Soldanoooooooooooooo being one of them

I really hope they get it sorted soon. So Con on IKMM GET OUR FINGER OUT!!

[Hink]

I yam what I yam

I'm from New England...there aint no pirates in NE, you know why?. We aint got no 'R'

[jens]

You do not eally undestand something unless you can explain it to you gandmothe...

[Hink]

You do not really undastand something unless you can explain it to you grandmotha...

I guess that's a joke that doesn't translate well over the internet I fixed your quote to show what I meant, because it might not transcend language barriers either...where my family hails from (including my late gramndmotha) 'there' is 'theyuh', 'here' is 'heyah' 'fair' is 'fayuh', 'horse' is 'hoss' etc

but then again popeye wasn't a pirate either

[glokraw]

a bunch of hype that boils down to buying more names and some minor improvements

...has IK not seen all the posts over the internet people make saying "I dont care about models, I care about sound"?...

Good luck to IK, but this is not for me

This is an unfortunate turn because it instantly struck me as a marketing innovation for them, rather than a technological innovation such as the created the original Amplitube. It looks as if they realized that you can only sell a comprehensive amp/device modeler once to each customer. However, this new method of selling lets them encourage continued repeat buys and, ultimately, much greater revenue from each buyer.

I think it's brilliant marketing and good on them for figuring out how to make lots of money. However, I can't base my purchasing decisions on my respect for a company's marketing people--I buy based on cost vs. functionality. If IK phases out entirely the comprehensive package for a core + add-ons structure in the future, I'll look for better alternatives--especially those in which the developers are proudest of their technical advances.

+1, my point is it's all about G.A.S....there comes a point where you do not need all these models, one good model will do the job. Midway between releases of every sim it seems to shift to 'if it sounds good that's all that matters' and people do not care if it's a Marshall model or an Orange model or a Fender model etc. But yet IK is still pushing models and some of those same people will be gushing over the models.

I've been involved in a ton of these threads and I doubt anyone will say that I am either anti or pro sim or anti or pro real amp because I am not biased in any direction. (the only true bias I have is against revalver for they way they treated me personally). The truth is imho that more models wont make you sound better, I really like AT3, I really like GR4, I kinda like GTR3.5 and then there's VANDAL (I do not put that in the same category, it's a virtual amp) and I own them all. There are great freebies as well, some of which are giving the big guys a run for the money sound wise.

Here you have my pet peeve and I'm sorry I do not recognize you (but it's a pleasure to make your aquatence)...however those who know me know how I feel about Gibson and Fender, in this economy performance matters...not the name. I do not buy names, end of story.

IK is pushing the 'official' models which is a business model that I do not care for. That does not mean it's bad, I'm right or wrong but to me and to a lot of people I know it is all hype. I have really been very consistent about this over the years and will not change, what matters is my needs.

I have all the sims I have, I have several amps and am getting more (owned quite a few others over almost 40 years) for a reason. I want as many options as I can get. Now that might sound like I'm contradicting myself but I'm not, I want a lot of options but I do not need a lot of duplicated options. And to be brutally honest the 'official' label is like all the other advertising I see in the world, just like adding 'pro' to a name...bs. There is a lot of duplicated options because I can alreay get that sound from another model, why do I need it to say Soldano or Marshall?

I dont buy a car because some race car driver endorses it, I don't buy a guitar because some rock star endorses it, I don't buy groceries because it's what some celebrity endorses...I buy what works for me. AT3 works for me, I'm glad I can get AT3.5 for the 64 bit when I need it (I use samplitude and it's not yet 64 bit)...but more models will not make me perform better, sound better or produce more. I do think AT3 is a cpu hog and was already bloated, therefore it's primary purpose for me is for re-amping and I'm okay with that. But I would have rather seen AT 3.5 move more in a direction that enhanced it's own performance rather than add a mechanism to add more models, which are just names...or the 'official' name.

That's how I see this update and there will be those who will jump all over me, but I speak my mind with honesty. So I am a bit disappointed, but I dont expect anyone else to be and I respect the right of all to disagree with me (and am bracing myself for the attacks that will follow my statements)...but for me this is not what I hoped for.

I do also recognize that IK needs to generate income the best way they can to continue to deliver a fine product to us, but as you say so well "I buy based on cost vs. functionality"



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You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother.

Albert Einstein

Please note your signature Quote at the bottom of the incredibly long explanation ...oh the irony

I yam what I yam

I take my spinach garden fresh, stir-fried with bacon, onions, and a touch of garlic.

[ObiWonder]

Please make AT4 full stereo! Not only dual mono!

It has been since the 3.0 update: http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube/m ... fo1.php#a6

Please make AT4 full stereo! Not only dual mono!

What do you mean? They aren't independent channels (left and right)?

They are and have been since 3.0 http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube/m ... fo1.php#a6

loading the compressor in the free version crashes my PC!

gigabyte ud4 with i7 950, sonar 8.5 and sonic core cards, on win 7 64 bit.

Please fill out a support ticket so we can get an update to fix these problems ASAP.

PS. Your support ticket system suck real hard. I do not want to start a love affair by entering my shoe size etc. I just want to register the fact that I can not get into your user area, but I have to give all irrelevant info before I am allowed to do so.

+1

I'm sorry but in order to help you we need to know your exact set up. Otherwise its all a shot in the dark. We'd rather know the details so we don't miss anything in helping you.

With Amplitube 3.5 it's slightly more than 300 MB per instance in Reaper. This is no good at all so I guess I have to limit my guitar tracks to... 4 per project (yes, without the hassle of freezing etc). Hrmpf. Fancy interfaces though.

Right click audio -> Apply track FX to items as New Take.

Still bloat though.

Heck, I could do with only a command line interface to Amplitube.

You computer ninja you...

RAM usage is the same. We are aware of user concerns where RAM is considered. We are looking at possible options to address this in some future version. It probably won't happen until version 4, though.

Thanks for the answer Brian. Looking forward to next version then, and good luck with version 3.5. Even though I too find the prices are a bit steep for my taste I appreciate the possibility to pick what I want.

The new Custom Shop and AmpliTube 3 FREE are perfect for those that don't have a big budget. They get 24 free gear models and can add EXACTLY what they want with nothing they won't use saving money in the long run.

there are ups and downs of all marketing schemes. So I think IK has alreay accounted for the radioeggs of the world

The radioeggs of the world say: LET'S MAKE MUSIC! We love music. We don't like false Messiahs. Since when was Messiah pre-announced, anyway?

for the record I meant no offense by using your name to generalize those that are disapointed...I'm all for making music but piss poor at finishing songs...I wont get into the 'mess I a' make of things

That's fine. I didn't put my boxing gloves on, for YOUR record... But there is enough room to swing the cat, so:

I'm just so tired of the biggest commercial companies like IK getting all the attention. Audiffex just released a new amp/fx suite, and I haven't seen anything about it on this forum yet. And there are great things happening in the free world all the time.

For you Soldano lovers: At guitarampmodeling.com there is an amp called NRR1, that's supposed to be something like a Soldano (SLO 100?). Try to compare. I don't say NRR1 sounds like a real Soldano, I never played one. But is the AT Soldano better? AT might have taken pictures of them measuring a real Soldano back and forth. But how much better did that make their Soldano model? Was it worth the bucks over a free model?

That was just one example.

Anyway: Why do we care? What we are discussing here is: What is the best frozen factory made pizza. We all know that we have to go to a real italian restaurant to get a great pizza. Or maybe make it ourselves. I'll stop eating frozen pizza. Real amps for me! And a few free amps/fx (like NRR1 and TSE 808) for living room made demos.

Good night everybody!

We're officially endorsed by Soldano nobody else is. And IK Multimedia is a company based in Italy...wanna talk pizza?

It's a really touchy thing for me, can you tell?

Indeed I can & I'm a bit pissed at the lack of preparedness on IKMMs part here. It seem that they put most of their efforts into the custom chop instead of distributing their efforts equally between the custom shop & the plugins themselves which should be deemed as the most important part of the package really. I would have thought they'd have paid extra special attention to the 64-bit version of Amplitube, saying as its their first endeavour into the 64-bit realm

Just a bit of topic, One other thing I noticed by watching demo videos from plugin devs like IKMM. most of them are using Macs (I've nothing against Mac BTW) Although I'm sure they test everything thoroughly on Windows before release..........or do they

As long as they get it sorted soon I'll be happy enough with that. Apart from these few teething problems I quite like the whole Custom Shop idea, although already having AT3 & AT Fender means I have most of the gear in the shop but there's still a few gems floating about.

Soldanoooooooooooooo being one of them

I really hope they get it sorted soon. So Con on IKMM GET OUR FINGER OUT!!

I'm an avid PC user over here. We do try our best to get 100% with each release but with so many different DAW, formats and systems somethings fall through the cracks. When experiencing bugs PLEASE fill out a support ticket so we can get u pdates and fixes posted ASAP. We had the AU issue and because people filled out support tickets we were able to have an update in less than 24 hours because we got the info to fix it.

[glokraw]

one other minor gripe to add to the list, the trial period of 2 days for a piece of custom gear is annoyingly short. it would make a lot more sense to time the trial by amount of usage not just 2 days from when you click go, like with Sonic Charge products where you get 3 weeks of usage during the trial.

in the end i got about an hours worth of usage out of the soldano during my trial period. im still not sure about it so i'll have to wait 2 months to see if i am sure and hope that during those 2 days nothing comes up which stops me from using the 2 days trial as much as I want.

Thats over 5 hours testing time per KNOB, on the Soldano, once folks schedule their demo times, and see the price as a few Starbucks, and a cheeseburger...

[glokraw]

Update... was able to uninstall 3.5 and revert back to 3.x... all is well. Except: IK wasted three hours of my time f%cking around with their BOZO software.

Jim

To use your purchased gear, launch your custom shop, click the Account button, then choose 'Restore my Gear'. I could then choose them the Legacy menu option in A3.5. Did it once using the standalone, and once using the plugin,
Cheers

[glokraw]

i got both the xgear and duo from way back,but they are not installed,if i install them and do the restore in account,do the presets from those 2 show up in A3 free?

and do i need to have them installed afterwards??

Hi, choose the Legacy menu option after you 'restore your gear'.
I would not uninstall anything until it is known how memory usage will be enhanced.
I have a project with both xGear and A3.5 in Reaper, no issues to report.
Cheers

[LGK_Dude]

AT2 user here. I got in on the esoundz group buy where they gave us some cool presets for Ampitube X-gear. Will those load into Amplitube 3.5? If so, how do I transfer them, because as of now they are not showing up. Also, how do I go about integrating old projects into Amplitube 3.5? Do I have to manually save all my X-gear presets used in songs and transfer them manually to A3.5?

Thank you for making it 64-bit! Oh how I have waited for this day!

[hibidy]

I'm an avid PC user over here. We do try our best to get 100% with each release but with so many different DAW, formats and systems somethings fall through the cracks. When experiencing bugs PLEASE fill out a support ticket so we can get u pdates and fixes posted ASAP. We had the AU issue and because people filled out support tickets we were able to have an update in less than 24 hours because we got the info to fix it.

I understand, but you have to know my history

Over and out, I'd love to discuss how people are feeling about the new models or try and help if someone has an issue but I'm done the with whole x64 thing for the time being.