Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter
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penguinfromdeep penguinfromdeep https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=193898
- KVRAF
- 1993 posts since 18 Nov, 2008
I will be the first customer!
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool
- KVRAF
- 7788 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
Nope, sorry. I was the first customer for The Glue and I plan on being the first for The Drop too. 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2817 posts since 3 Dec, 2008
I've got the first scientific sweep style head to head with The Drop and the MS20 rev2. I've got an oscilloscope as well as fft displayed and change the cutoff, resonance, saw input pitch and level to give things a good workout:
(edit: I've since updated the algorithm, so please check here instead for the latest youtube link http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 86#4991686
(edit: I've since updated the algorithm, so please check here instead for the latest youtube link http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 86#4991686
Last edited by andy-cytomic on Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:28 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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- KVRist
- 214 posts since 6 Jun, 2004
Very impressed indeed!andy_cytomic wrote:I've got the first scientific sweep style head to head with The Drop and the MS20 rev2. I've got an oscilloscope as well as fft displayed and change the cutoff, resonance, saw input pitch and level to give things a good workout:
I'm sure it's still a few months off but it looks like at long last we're finally going to have a decent ITB filter emulation that can compete with my trusty Sherman Filterbank!
JM
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afreshcupofjoe afreshcupofjoe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=94815
- KVRAF
- 1838 posts since 17 Jan, 2006 from Portland, OR
Holy hell, that's impressive.
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- KVRist
- 128 posts since 29 Dec, 2011 from Philadelphia
sounds great Andy!!
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- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
- KVRAF
- 4845 posts since 2 Sep, 2005 from city of lights (nl)
Well impressed!andy_cytomic wrote:I've got the first scientific sweep style head to head with The Drop and the MS20 rev2. I've got an oscilloscope as well as fft displayed and change the cutoff, resonance, saw input pitch and level to give things a good workout:
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- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 10 Feb, 2008 from Berlin, Germany
When does this finally come out?
Any chance to participate in some kind of beta?
I just started to make some use of external filters (MS20-FX and some stuff of FL Studio) in combination with the Automation Clips in FL Studio, and it's really nice, what you can do with this in comparison to just using synth-internal envelopes and filters.
I'd love to "awesome up" my sound by using some better filters though.
This is where "The Drop" should come into play.
Any chance to participate in some kind of beta?
I just started to make some use of external filters (MS20-FX and some stuff of FL Studio) in combination with the Automation Clips in FL Studio, and it's really nice, what you can do with this in comparison to just using synth-internal envelopes and filters.
I'd love to "awesome up" my sound by using some better filters though.
This is where "The Drop" should come into play.
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- KVRAF
- 1724 posts since 10 Feb, 2008 from Berlin, Germany
I have just tried out some other filter plugins, and to my surprise most filter plugins are totally USELESS, when it comes to fast automation. 
Even stuff like Volcano from Fabfilter is not able to process fast automation curves to the cutoff knob.
So now I'm actually a bit concerned here.
Will The Drop be able to process really fast automation data?
So I can do stuff like this with it:
https://www.box.com/s/edcde30e1ac408a0fff5
Pleeeeaaaase say YES.
Even stuff like Volcano from Fabfilter is not able to process fast automation curves to the cutoff knob.
So now I'm actually a bit concerned here.
Will The Drop be able to process really fast automation data?
So I can do stuff like this with it:
https://www.box.com/s/edcde30e1ac408a0fff5
Pleeeeaaaase say YES.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2817 posts since 3 Dec, 2008
That sounds like slow automation to me, but it does have a triggered synth envelope with a fast decay time, are you referring to this envelope "plip"? If so then you can do this kind of thing easily with The Drop, either by triggering the envelope via midi or via a "manual trigger" automation gate control, where an upward step of the control from below 0.5 to above 0.5 will trigger the envelope. The internal processing of The Drop is always done at audio rate or above if you have oversampling enabled, which, along with the very detailed analog modelling, will give ultra smooth results.Nokenoku wrote:I have just tried out some other filter plugins, and to my surprise most filter plugins are totally USELESS, when it comes to fast automation.
Even stuff like Volcano from Fabfilter is not able to process fast automation curves to the cutoff knob.
So now I'm actually a bit concerned here.
Will The Drop be able to process really fast automation data?
So I can do stuff like this with it:
https://www.box.com/s/edcde30e1ac408a0fff5
Pleeeeaaaase say YES.
(edit: for example the audio demos here http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 37#4976837 were done with a completely dry saw tooth input to the drop and triggering the envelopes via midi)
The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com
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afreshcupofjoe afreshcupofjoe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=94815
- KVRAF
- 1838 posts since 17 Jan, 2006 from Portland, OR
This is not a limitation of the plugins, but a limitation of the midi spec itself. You don't want to be drawing really fast automation curves to a cutoff knob with midi cc values. That's just the wrong way to go about doing it. As Andy pointed out, most filter plugins have built in envelopes that can be triggered in a number of ways to do exactly what you are trying to achieve.Nokenoku wrote:I have just tried out some other filter plugins, and to my surprise most filter plugins are totally USELESS, when it comes to fast automation.
Even stuff like Volcano from Fabfilter is not able to process fast automation curves to the cutoff knob.
"The Juno 60 was often incorrectly referred to as a synth. It is, in fact, a chorus unit with a synth attached." -PAK
