That’s the spirit! Welcome to the clubkritikon wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:24 am Now that's what music is all about. Though i don't need FL to get nothing done...I can get nothing done with literally any software.![]()
Why is FL Studio so popular?
- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
I'll stand by my point, FLStudio's GUI is a mess. You might know what everything is but that's beside the point.


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- Banned
- 4558 posts since 21 Mar, 2020
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. Not everybody shares it.
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- Banned
- 4558 posts since 21 Mar, 2020
Excellently put.MrJubbly wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:31 pmBecause those particular individuals never learned how to get the most out of the more complex aspects of the software and so were never able to maximise its potential.
The same as when somebody used to a straightforward application like Microsoft Paint (where every tool serves a singular role), then becomes lost when bombarded with the sheer volume of choices whenever attempting to use a more diverse and complex application like Adobe Photoshop.
The fact that there are so many additional tools, methods and ways to achieve the same or similar outcomes, frazzles their mind into a choice paralysis and so their workflow suffers or even grinds to a halt.
Those types of users tend to think only linearly and so cannot cope as efficiently when thrust into a more diverse non-linear environment.
Linear mindsets need everything kept plain and simple for them, with a single option provided for them to achieve each single objective.
Which is all fine and good that they prefer that linear setup. Since there are many choices available to them to cater for those simpler tastes.
However, they become frustrated that their choices are not shared by all, and worse yet, their preferred choice does not garner anywhere near as much attention as the more popular software that they could never get to grips with personally.
And so insecurity regarding their own inability of being unable to cope within a more diverse and complex non-linear setup breeds envy towards those who can. Often exhibited as public lashing out at said software (which they then term "banter" when confronted over their churlish resentful behaviour), instead of simply being content and satisfied with their own preferred DAW of choice.
In short, they feel if they can diminish the importance of the other DAW, they can feel better about not being able to adapt to it themselves. And hopefully deter others from trying, in turn helping to reduce that DAWs popularity.
You see the same kind of behaviour everywhere, especially when confronted with a more popular rival. Doesn't matter if it's DAW wars, Format wars, Console wars, or rival sports teams. The losers of each popularity/success contest are almost always the more vitriolic with their slanders towards the other competitors.
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- KVRAF
- 5070 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
But do you know that it´s completely customizeable... mine looks like this and one can hardly call this a mess:THE INTRANCER wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:37 am I'll stand by my point, FLStudio's GUI is a mess. You might know what everything is but that's beside the point.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Is the point not to be able to effectively make music then?THE INTRANCER wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:37 am I'll stand by my point, FLStudio's GUI is a mess. You might know what everything is but that's beside the point.
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- KVRAF
- 25031 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
In 7-8 years? That's a little more than three per year so roughly one track every four months.THE INTRANCER wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 5:56 amYes, but I made about 25 full tracks since 2014 with Studio One 2 / 3 & 4. including those for videos/promo films I've uploaded to youtube.vurt wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:02 pm how many tracks did you say you'd made last year? was it 1? (it was, i saw it)
So maybe go make some more, rather than wasting your time here with lecturing people who are vastly more prolific than you on productivity?
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- KVRian
- 867 posts since 30 May, 2019
Perhaps some creators subscribe to more of a "quality over quantity" principle, than others?
That being said, there is absolutely no proven correlation between different DAW usage and efficiency of production. A factor, which is almost always predominantly dependent upon the individual proficiency and prolificacy of each musician themselves.
Over the years, my main DAWs of choice have variously flitted between: Cubase, Logic, Cakewalk and FL Studio and my productivity was never noticeably different within any of them (once I became familiar with each DAW to a comparable level).
I could even go back further in time, to the basic music trackers I began making music with in the late 80s. Give that same simple tool to multiple musicians, and you would get completely different rates of production. It's primarily the skill of the workman, not the tools they use.
If a user is sufficiently competent and knows how to achieve their intended objectives within any given audio software, then there should be negligible impact upon the rate or quality of their output, regardless of whichever DAW they happen to be utilising. And if there is any noticeable detriment to either, that likely says more about that particular individual themselves, than anything else.
That being said, there is absolutely no proven correlation between different DAW usage and efficiency of production. A factor, which is almost always predominantly dependent upon the individual proficiency and prolificacy of each musician themselves.
Over the years, my main DAWs of choice have variously flitted between: Cubase, Logic, Cakewalk and FL Studio and my productivity was never noticeably different within any of them (once I became familiar with each DAW to a comparable level).
I could even go back further in time, to the basic music trackers I began making music with in the late 80s. Give that same simple tool to multiple musicians, and you would get completely different rates of production. It's primarily the skill of the workman, not the tools they use.
If a user is sufficiently competent and knows how to achieve their intended objectives within any given audio software, then there should be negligible impact upon the rate or quality of their output, regardless of whichever DAW they happen to be utilising. And if there is any noticeable detriment to either, that likely says more about that particular individual themselves, than anything else.
- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
the reason for the numbers, intrancer stated, studio one was more popular, because you could easily get more done with it.MrJubbly wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:42 pm Perhaps some creators subscribe to more of a "quality over quantity" principle, than others?
after stating elsewhere, he made one track last year.
i asked donks, because i know he uses fl, and i know his songs have "quality". they're not thrown together, in one night like some folk here
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- KVRAF
- 35677 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Those non-telling icons with no text subtitle remind me of Reaper.THE INTRANCER wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:37 am I'll stand by my point, FLStudio's GUI is a mess. You might know what everything is but that's beside the point.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
but you are correct of course, it's not the point, the point is individual users like different things.
i can't work in cubase for example, just can't do it, but i can't say the program is at fault because i know many people who use it to great result!
but i can't say im at fault either, because im super productive in other hosts
horses, courses.
i can't work in cubase for example, just can't do it, but i can't say the program is at fault because i know many people who use it to great result!
but i can't say im at fault either, because im super productive in other hosts
horses, courses.
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- KVRAF
- 35677 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
No offence, but, that never was a good argument. "It might be a mess, but you can configure the mess so that it's less of a mess.". Yes, you can do that with Reaper too. If you spend the time to learn all the ins and outs. Configuring is something you do when you're an advanced user, not someone who just got into the software.Trancit wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:18 amBut do you know that it´s completely customizeable... mine looks like this and one can hardly call this a mess:THE INTRANCER wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:37 am I'll stand by my point, FLStudio's GUI is a mess. You might know what everything is but that's beside the point.
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Don't get me wrong, I don't say that FLS is a mess, I just say that THE INTRANCER has a point with the tool bar.
- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
but last year one track.THE INTRANCER wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 5:56 amYes, but I made about 25 full tracks since 2014 with Studio One 2 / 3 & 4. including those for videos/promo films I've uploaded to youtube. I did daily technical help for Studio One users for two years on the Presonus forums...vurt wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:02 pm how many tracks did you say you'd made last year? was it 1? (it was, i saw it)
hanging around on forums is not an excuse, donks does that too and runs the buses or something.
none of that is relevant to your original statement, donks got more music done with fl last year, than you did with studio one.
so your original claim is bullshit.
- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
thats because you're lazy as f**k and nothing to do with software deficiency.kritikon wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:31 pm I still think one track per year is pretty good going...wish I had that kind of get-up-and-go.![]()