Sad state of Native Instruments

[Cyforce]

https://www.synthanatomy.com/2023/02/na ... -beta.html

Reaktor gets some love... finally, and hopefully quiet soon

[vurt]

I love the NI stuff, especially some of the newer shit like Piano Colors and Lores.

I agree, it sure is "shit".

These are fantastic sounding libraries and like Vurt said they're making money off them otherwise that wouldn't be where the business is going.

Well if 'Vurt' says, then it must be true! He does, after all, spend 18 hours a day on this forum, posting endless useless posts about nothing, because he doesn't have a life.

Also satisfied with where they are going with updating existing stuff for the Apple Silicon platform.

Who is satisfied? They are satisfied? You are satisfied? It helps if you write "I'm also satisfied" if that's what you mean.

For a company with a such an old catalog and probably a shit-ton of tech debt they're doing just fine as far as I'm concerned.

Well that's okay then, who cares about the reality of the situation?

Is it all perfect? Of course not but they're finally doing what they need to do while bringing in the money they need to keep moving.

Finally? So they weren't making money before?

Someone made a hilarious comment about how their hardware isn't that great. It sucks so bad that I keep seeing the Komplete Kontrol keyboards everywhere on YouTube

The following is one of many reasons why Native Instruments is going downhill:

'Why Battery 3 is better than Battery 4':

well that's bullshit. im only awake for a maximum of 14 hours a day.

more to the point, if im the one with no life, why are you so miserable?
look deep within yourself, you may find true happiness.

[rezoneight]

I love the NI stuff, especially some of the newer shit like Piano Colors and Lores.

I agree, it sure is "shit".

Of course "BenfordLaw" you know thats not what I meant but you think you are clever. Bravo sir for trying to show your superiority on a music forum. I'm sure your mother would be really proud! But no, Piano Colors and Lores are not shit by any means and frankly not even produced by NI themselves. I know you're into facts right? Piano Colors is yet another product in a long line of quality products from Galaxy Instruments and Uli Baronowsky and Lores is another quality product from Anthony Ammar and the team at Evolution Series.

These are fantastic sounding libraries and like Vurt said they're making money off them otherwise that wouldn't be where the business is going.

Well if 'Vurt' says, then it must be true! He does, after all, spend 18 hours a day on this forum, posting endless useless posts about nothing, because he doesn't have a life.

Yet here you are commenting. One wonders who doesn't have a life.... Regardless of whether Vurt spends 18 hours a day on this forum, posting endless useless posts that has little to do with the fact that he's right. They're selling these libraries because they're making money.

Also satisfied with where they are going with updating existing stuff for the Apple Silicon platform.

Who is satisfied? They are satisfied? You are satisfied? It helps if you write "I'm also satisfied" if that's what you mean.

C'mon man clearly you are an educated...something. You have the power to comprehend this. Sorry I neglected to follow your rules but boy do you look superior to the rest of us I expect you know I was referring to myself.

For a company with a such an old catalog and probably a shit-ton of tech debt they're doing just fine as far as I'm concerned.

Well that's okay then, who cares about the reality of the situation?

Not sure what your reality is BONES, I mean "BenfordLaw". It certainly is my reality and my opinion.

Is it all perfect? Of course not but they're finally doing what they need to do while bringing in the money they need to keep moving.

Finally? So they weren't making money before?

What do you think? Please do share with the rest of us your sage advice on how NI should run it's business. I'm sure it will be enlightening and they'll quickly follow what you say! Should they continue to produce content for an ever-widening market or just concentrate on a smaller one that wants more synthesizers when that market is pretty well saturated at this point?

Someone made a hilarious comment about how their hardware isn't that great. It sucks so bad that I keep seeing the Komplete Kontrol keyboards everywhere on YouTube

The following is one of many reasons why Native Instruments is going downhill:

'Why Battery 3 is better than Battery 4':

Hmm...I said hardware and Komplete Kontrol keyboards and you responded with "Battery 4" and a video which is in neither of these categories and frankly just someone else's opinion as valid as mine. Weird. And you know whats beautiful? That person, and you, are free to keep using Battery 3! Amazing right?

I know it's hard to read opinions that don't agree with yours. But I trust you will survive this. Recommend if you don't like my opinion feel free to use the ignore feature.

[Dirtgrain]

Well if 'Vurt' says, then it must be true! He does, after all, spend 18 hours a day on this forum, posting endless useless posts about nothing, because he doesn't have a life.

Any idea how writing that makes you look? Dick move. Now go lighten up Francis.

[pierb]

https://www.synthanatomy.com/2023/02/na ... -beta.html

Reaktor gets some love... finally, and hopefully quiet soon

They only did that to be able to keep the Reaktor products in the Komplete bundle. Don't expect new features in Reaktor any time soon.

[glokraw]

Well if 'Vurt' says, then it must be true! He does, after all, spend 18 hours a day on this forum, posting endless useless posts about nothing, because he doesn't have a life.

Any idea how writing that makes you look? Dick move. Now go lighten up Francis.

People dealing with modular synthesis, music gear, computers, and health issues,
have my respect. I suspect Vurt has a limited amount of time for sleep.

Cheers

[gentleclockdivider]

https://www.synthanatomy.com/2023/02/na ... -beta.html

Reaktor gets some love... finally, and hopefully quiet soon

They only did that to be able to keep the Reaktor products in the Komplete bundle. Don't expect new features in Reaktor any time soon.

Vst3 and arm support was needed for reaktor to get future updates and improvements .

[glokraw]

CLAP support for NI product range certainly would open some possibilities to the free thinking Reaktor ensemble coders, among others. But the possibility might cause some heated talks behind closed doors, if it hasn't already. If it's good enough for U-he...

Glad to see vst3 and mac support, as some family members will benefit.

[GHOST19]

https://www.synthanatomy.com/2023/02/na ... -beta.html

Reaktor gets some love... finally, and hopefully quiet soon

They only did that to be able to keep the Reaktor products in the Komplete bundle. Don't expect new features in Reaktor any time soon.

Vst3 and arm support was needed for reaktor to get future updates and improvements .

Basic compatibility fixes aren't what you usually expect from a .5 update.

[zerocrossing]

Who will join the
VURT DEFENDER KNIGHTS (VDK)?
This blasphemic attack has to be revenged!

I was all, “why the f am I seeing posts from that goober,” and I realized I’d been logged out so I was seeing my ignored users.

[pierb]

Vst3 and arm support was needed for reaktor to get future updates and improvements .

Here are some quotes by the Reaktor team from the 6.5 annoucement:

"NI is not in a position to invest major resources in this product, which has not been news for some time."

"Our team is aware that the lack of more features will lead to frustration. But at this stage, we as a team will not be able to change this situation."

https://community.native-instruments.co ... ment_48110

Again, I wouldn't hold my breath up.

Reaktor needs a major overhaul and it's obvious NI is not very interested in that. Maybe they don't have the cash or maybe most NI users are not using Reaktor enough to justify the investment.

God only knows what they did with the 50M Euros they got from Francisco partners a couple of years ago.

[dayjob]

Vst3 and arm support was needed for reaktor to get future updates and improvements .

Here are some quotes by the Reaktor team from the 6.5 annoucement:

"NI is not in a position to invest major resources in this product, which has not been news for some time."

"Our team is aware that the lack of more features will lead to frustration. But at this stage, we as a team will not be able to change this situation."

https://community.native-instruments.co ... ment_48110

Again, I wouldn't hold my breath up.

Reaktor needs a major overhaul and it's obvious NI is not very interested in that. Maybe they don't have the cash or maybe most NI users are not using Reaktor enough to justify the investment.

God only knows what they did with the 50M Euros they got from Francisco partners a couple of years ago.

wow. reading what's at the link is depressing. must be so frustrating for the reaktor team to not get all the support they need. that's the life of an engineer i guess. the marketing team rules over all. the bottom line is what it is.. as always though..

[ghettosynth]

God only knows what they did with the 50M Euros they got from Francisco partners a couple of years ago.

Maschine+?

[glokraw]

Curious about the relationship of 'blocks' as a source of new capability for Reaktor users.
Can coders outside of NI get a blocks sdk, without paying a fortune, and create new blocks
for sale to, or for sharing with, the public?

[xbow]

Curious about the relationship of 'blocks' as a source of new capability for Reaktor users.
Can coders outside of NI get a blocks sdk, without paying a fortune, and create new blocks
for sale to, or for sharing with, the public?

Toybox Modular offer excellent 3rd party blocks, so it's possible.

But they're the only commercial developer I know. So Reaktor/Blocks hasn't exactly caught on with 3rd party devs, which might another reason for NI not to prioritize it. In comparison, NI must make a lot of money from 3rd party Kontakt licensing.