Surface 2013: good bye iPad?

[egbert]

There are cheap - (round £90) Windows 8 Tablets now :

http://www.tesco.com/direct/connect-7-t ... 2-3108.prd

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/20 ... n_android/

This is in part due to Intel supplying loss-leader components to tablet makers.

egs Nokia N1 - based on a 64 bit quad core Intel Atom CPU - priced at ~ 250 bucks has spec comparable to 400 ARM based android tablets. MS is supplying Windows for nix to low cost tablets. Both companies are desperate to gain some market share and are subsidising cheap product to buy their way in.

[IncarnateX]

Who's in denial now? You passed from a overall market statistics to a company by company statistics in just one year (and even that is not as favourable as before). And the overall statistics also said that tablet sales increased much less than it was expected in 2014, and are expected to just increase slightly next year, while the ultrabooks will increase sales even more.

Does this show you something, or do you still prefer dreaming with Apple Santa?

YOU are in denial, especially if you believe that there will be no iPad Air 3 this year or some other iPad model. You are running out of time for your "the iPad will be dead in a few years" prophecy from 2013, a tendency which is not supported by any present statistics. I will gladly return year after year to this thread to taunt you on that one. But I guess that you will change the semantics of a "few" to mean 100+ or even "dead" to mean "alive" at that time, right? The only thing shown here is that you still got no clue. You are not going to be rich on your predictions this year either.

[IncarnateX]

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[polaris20]

Wow, this thread is still going?

I see some people are still in denial. Windows 8 (and 8.1) tablets came, and they flopped. iPads are still here, and will be, as will the Android tablets which are getting very good.

Windows 8.1 is fantastic on a laptop, but on a tablet, particularly for audio, it's just not that great.

[9headshydra]

Who's in denial now?

those who think Ipad and ios ecosytem will be soon dead.

those who think MS surface pro will kill Ipad.

those who still forget how important dedicated tactil UI apps are to get a pleasant user experience on tactil tablet.

those who think mass market needs and musicians need are the same.

those who think they can run easily powerfull musical app on cheap 90 usd atom tablet.

[chk071]

Wow, this thread is still going?

I see some people are still in denial. Windows 8 (and 8.1) tablets came, and they flopped. iPads are still here, and will be, as will the Android tablets which are getting very good.

Windows 8.1 is fantastic on a laptop, but on a tablet, particularly for audio, it's just not that great.

We will see a lot of Windows tablets in the future, i don't think you'll have to be a prophet to say so. As i wrote before, it's a question if Apple will be able to keep its "premium" status. Samsung is already as premium as Apple with its most expensive devices. And the others are quickly catching up too. And if you take a look at it, Apple has already changed to more competetive prices too. Apart from the 100 € you are charged more for 64 gb extra memory in the iPad. That's still good ol' Apple.

[trimph1]

Keep on forecasting the iPad's impending doom, fmr, this thread needs another 50+ pages of laughter.

[UltraJv]

Apple will kill off the iPad by obsolescence. They will make something else that no one needs, iwatch anyone?

[fmr]

To the bunch of Apple fanboys over here: I never predicted that Surface would kill iPad, I just said that iPad would disappear "in a few years", and I also predicted that tablets in general are a fashion that would soon be vanished. I did that in 2013. In the end of 2014, sales results started to show that I was right. We'll talk again when the figures of 2015 come out (or when Apple effectively kill iPad themselves, launching something like a hybrid tablet/lightbook running Mac OS X).

[fmr]

Apple will kill off the iPad by obsolescence. They will make something else that no one needs, iwatch anyone?

That's what a consumerism driven company do.

[IncarnateX]

To the bunch of Apple fanboys over here: I never predicted that Surface would kill iPad, I just said that iPad would disappear "in a few years", and I also predicted that tablets in general are a fashion that would soon be vanished. I did that in 2013. In the end of 2014, sales results started to show that I was right. We'll talk again when the figures of 2015 come out (or when Apple effectively kill iPad themselves, launching something like a hybrid tablet/lightbook running Mac OS X).

Oh, so the semantics game has started now: So there is a BIG difference claiming that the iPad will be killed and that it will disappear, right?

And the sales haven’t shown anything of the kind. The iPad is still the most selling tablet with over 1/3 of the market share even if iOS is not the most selling OS. That is a long way to ground zero. You read those numbers with the same accuracy as the Devil reads the bible.

Now let us just sum up your prediction and your assertion about the reasons for the iPad "disappearance".

It may not be right now, or next year, but the iPad will be gone in a few years, since people start to realize that, behind the fun, it really does not do nothing that can be compared to a real computer running a real OS.

So the iPad will be gone, right? And this due to the fact that it will take a few years for people to realize that it is not a computer with a real OS (which it is, just not a PC or a Mac!)? What an idiotic hypothesis pulled right out of your ass.

No one has to be an Apple fan boy to call your bullshit. It is hilarious as some other guy already has noted.

Now I know that no one is THAT stupid, not even you, so why don’t we cut to the chase: “Someone” did a very bad thing to you with an iPad, right? And since that someone probably is someone close to you, maybe someone you love and admire, you cannot cope with the fact that this “someone” is to blame. Therefore it must be the iPad’s fault and thus you wish it to “disappear”, right? You should really contact a professional with this issue instead of displaying it here. You will just make a laugh of yourself and that is not going to help you.

[chk071]

Not that it was of relevance for this thread, but i was in the Media Markt today, a big technics store chain in germany, and they completely rearranged the department where they used to sell laptops now. It's a huge open, white, shiny area now, with a few designer tables, on which rest Apple devices, iPhones, iPads, and laptops. Reminded me of a mixture between Hilton hotel, and a sect's church.

[fmr]

Now I know that no one is THAT stupid, not even you, so why don’t we cut to the chase: “Someone” did a very bad thing to you with an iPad, right? And since that someone probably is someone close to you, maybe someone you love and admire, you cannot cope with the fact that this “someone” is to blame. Therefore it must be the iPad’s fault and thus you wish it to “disappear”, right? You should really contact a professional with this issue instead of displaying it here. You will just make a laugh of yourself and that is not going to help you.

Now, THAT was funny. But no, not really.

[polyslax]

We'll talk again when the figures of 2015 come out

Sure we will, but for now let's focus on how wrong you've been for the last 2 years.

[polyslax]

Apple will kill off the iPad by obsolescence. They will make something else that no one needs, iwatch anyone?

That's what a consumerism driven company do.

Yes, hopefully one of those altruistic tech firms can show them how things should be... MS, perhaps?