Parawave Rapid?

[Teksonik]

Either way... it´s again the same old game... Parawave says it´s Bitwig´s fault, Bitwig says it´s Parawave´s fault and at the very end it is very unlikely that the problem will ever be solved.

It's been that way since the day that plugins and DAWs first co-existed. The plugin developer blames the DAW, the DAW developer blames the plugin.

[Teksonik]

I dont care about you, i dont talk about you, no one is asking how you use or your opinion on sylenth1 is it relevant or not or you use it or not, so keep it to yourself please because you derailed from the topic.

Hey Einstein, you're the one who first brought up Sylenth 1 so you're the one who derailed the topic.

Sometimes I feel like I'm communicating with toddlers here.

Sylenth1 last update was long time ago, but it doesnt need any, it works.

[Lbdunequest]

I dont care about you, i dont talk about you, no one is asking how you use or your opinion on sylenth1 is it relevant or not or you use it or not, so keep it to yourself please because you derailed from the topic.

Hey Einstein, you're the one who first brought up Sylenth 1 so you're the one who derailed the topic.

Sometimes I feel like I'm communicating with toddlers here.

Sylenth1 last update was long time ago, but it doesnt need any, it works.

I brought up sylenth1 as an example about the support in the context that the synth doesn't have new features for many years.

Almost every time when you reply, you reply with self-centered manner like a thread or topic is about you and no one else "oh you are wrong because this doesnt happen to me, oh you are wrong because i said so, oh you are wrong because i dont agree with you". Why you do that? You are rude and very arrogant in that manner so please don't call me toddler just because of your own narcisistic behaviour.

[Benjamin923]

I want to point out, since you are being a bit misleading and rude about this, that in your own quote that you just linked KV331 tried to reproduce your issue and could not, asked you follow ups to try and reproduce your system configuration, to which you said that was completely irrelevant and stopped responding after that point. It's too bad you're having issues with SM3, but the issue you are experiencing is not something anyone else seems to be reporting and you weren't interested in helping KV331 debug it, so others can take that as they will.

I stopped responding because I stopped caring. It's simply pointless to keep spending time with a plugin that is so wonky for me when I have so many other alternatives to choose from that aren't wonky.

I want to point out that:

1. Just because no one else can reproduce an issue it doesn't mean that issue does not exist. Take this from someone who has been a beta tester for many many plugins.

2. My system specs are irrelevant because....and pay close attention to this part: none of the dozens and dozens of other synths plugins have the same issues on the same system with the same specs.

3. He wouldn't be able to reproduce my system specs anyway without the same system components.

Now stop quoting me because you're the one being rude.

If you find SM3 wonky for your setup and choose not to use it for that reason that’s totally valid. We’ve all done that with software before. On your other points:

1. This is completely true and I’m glad we agree. Only thing is that your issue may be an uncommon one that only select users experience, which is why the developer needs help replicating it. I’ve also been a beta tester on paid plugins, so we both know that many bugs are system or configuration specific.

2. Okay I’m paying close attention to this part, but isn’t this how must bugs work? For example, I recently had a bug with BFD3.5 where it was clipping audio samples when running at 88.2KHz sample rate in FL Studio. The higher my buffer size, the fewer audio glitches occurred. Now, this shouldn’t happen for sure, and my other plugins work just fine, but the bug can’t be replicated without mirroring these configuration details. If I just sent the BFD developers an email that said audio was getting clipped but refused to tell them my sample rate, buffer size, and DAW, they’d not be able to reproduce it, even though my other plugins don’t have this issue.

3. Indeed it’s hard to match every detail of a user’s configuration in software product testing (software engineers have known this frustration forever), but you do the best you can and it’s often needed for replication.

On your last comment, this will be my last response to you on this topic, but I felt obligated to respond because I think some of these details about software bugs are actually useful to know.

Also, this is a public forum, and you have no influence over whether I respond to your public posts.

[Teksonik]

I brought up sylenth1 as an example about the support in the context that the synth doesn't have new features for many years.

Yet you accused me of "derailing the topic".

And I responded:

Sylenth 1 may work but it can no longer compete with plugins that are newer and under frequent development.

The same thing is happening with Rapid. The slow pace of development is causing it to fall behind synths like Nexus 5 and VPS Avenger in performance and most likely sales as well.

Anyone who would buy Sylenth 1 at this point over any of the other great alternatives that are still under development is wasting their money.....in my opinion.

As for Rapid would you buy it over VPS Avenger which is still supported by periodic updates and additional sample content and does have active support?

Or would you advise people to buy from a company that will not communicate and only shows up once a year to milk a Black Friday sale?

Almost every time when you reply, you reply with self-centered manner like a thread or topic is about you and no one else "oh you are wrong because this doesnt happen to me, oh you are wrong because i said so, oh you are wrong because i dont agree with you". Why you do that? You are rude and very arrogant in that manner so please don't call me toddler just because of your own narcisistic behaviour.

No, all I do is express my opinion. I am very confident in my opinions because I put a lot of thought into them. If that makes me arrogant then so be it. Everyone should be confident in their opinions or they shouldn't have those opinions. If you get triggered because someone disagrees with you then it's out of my control.

[Teksonik]

1. This is completely true and I’m glad we agree. Only thing is that your issue may be an uncommon one that only select users experience, which is why the developer needs help replicating it. I’ve also been a beta tester on paid plugins, so we both know that many bugs are system or configuration specific.

Absolutely and if I thought it was worth continuing to help find the bugs I would do so. I simply do not.

but isn’t this how must bugs work?

Yes some bugs are system specific but the point I was making is that if dozens of other plugins work under the same conditions and use cases then it's logical to think that system specs may not be the issue.

On your last comment, this will be my last response to you on this topic, but I felt obligated to respond because I think some of these details about software bugs are actually useful to know.

Yes the detail I posted about bugs not all being related to system specs is very useful to a developer who wishes to listen.

Also, this is a public forum, and you have no influence over whether I respond to your public posts.

Of course not but when you post something like this:

I want to point out, since you are being a bit misleading and rude about this

Then you're going to get a response from me and you have no influence over that.

I simply said I no longer care to work with SM3 and wished him good luck, twice, so if that's rude then your bar is very low indeed.....

At any rate let's drop all this and just wait to see if Parawave drops an update sometime during Black Friday period. It may be too little too late but any sign of life is welcome.

[Lbdunequest]

I brought up sylenth1 as an example about the support in the context that the synth doesn't have new features for many years.

Yet you accused me of "derailing the topic".

And I responded:

Sylenth 1 may work but it can no longer compete with plugins that are newer and under frequent development.

The same thing is happening with Rapid. The slow pace of development is causing it to fall behind synths like Nexus 5 and VPS Avenger in performance and most likely sales as well.

Anyone who would buy Sylenth 1 at this point over any of the other great alternatives that are still under development is wasting their money.....in my opinion.

As for Rapid would you buy it over VPS Avenger which is still supported by periodic updates and additional sample content and does have active support?

Or would you advise people to buy from a company that will not communicate and only shows up once a year to milk a Black Friday sale?

Almost every time when you reply, you reply with self-centered manner like a thread or topic is about you and no one else "oh you are wrong because this doesnt happen to me, oh you are wrong because i said so, oh you are wrong because i dont agree with you". Why you do that? You are rude and very arrogant in that manner so please don't call me toddler just because of your own narcisistic behaviour.

No, all I do is express my opinion. I am very confident in my opinions because I put a lot of thought into them. If that makes me arrogant then so be it. Everyone should be confident in their opinions or they shouldn't have those opinions. If you get triggered because someone disagrees with you then it's out of my control.

I dont think understand. Im going to try this:

9 people out of 10 are saying: No, this is my expierience
1 people out of 10 aka Teksonik: You are all 9 are absolutely wrong, because my expierience is different and you are telling lies because i said so.

You invalidate others. Thats not my or other people problem. Its you, you are the problem.

[BBFG#]

Because not all swans are white?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability

[enCiphered]

I dont think understand. Im going to try this:

9 people out of 10 are saying: No, this is my expierience
1 people out of 10 aka Teksonik: You are all 9 are absolutely wrong, because my expierience is different and you are telling lies because i said so.

You invalidate others. Thats not my or other people problem. Its you, you are the problem.

Give him a bit. This is usually where he drops the classic toddler-exit line... Don’t bother replying, I won’t read it, I’m out, going to make music now..
Don’t!!
I’m not looking!! La-la-la I can’t hear you!!..

[HcDoom]

Cant wait for the new update - it will add so much sound design possibilities. If it ever happens...

[zeph]

Cant wait for the new update - it will add so much sound design possibilities. If it ever happens...

Update - really????

what have you been smoking man????

[lepharaon]

On a lark, I booted up Parawave Rapid today and I've been fooling around with it for a while now and ... I have to admit, I really like it a lot. ...more than I remember liking it the last time, anyway.

...Is there reason to believe this is a synth (stroke company) which will see continued support and development, or should I consider this "the final version?"

...Apologies if this was covered recently, but a good 10 min looking through searches didn't give a good answer.

Rapid isn’t abandoned—Parawave still updates it for stability and compatibility, though new features come slowly. If you like it now, it’s safe to use long-term, but don’t expect frequent major overhauls.

[Trancit]

...If you like it now, it’s safe to use long-term, ...

I think you might be easily very wrong here...

Regarding the nearly no existing updates it will drive Rapid more and more into the "abandoned" direction which might reduce the sales to zero one day...

If there is no income anymore, do you think they will pay out of their own pocket the costs for the servers to keep the copy protection up and running?
If not... what´s then?
Will they offer a "free" version?? at least free of the current C/R system?
I doubt... might probably cause a huge rewrite of many parts in Rapid ... if doing updates is already too much, I doubt they will invest that work just to please "former clients".
They could just disappear and users couldn´t activate it anymore if there is a need because of machine changes.

This would be far from "it´s safe to use long-term" ...

[starflakeprj]

...If you like it now, it’s safe to use long-term, ...

I think you might be easily very wrong here...

Regarding the nearly no existing updates it will drive Rapid more and more into the "abandoned" direction which might reduce the sales to zero one day...

If there is no income anymore, do you think they will pay out of their own pocket the costs for the servers to keep the copy protection up and running?
If not... what´s then?
Will they offer a "free" version?? at least free of the current C/R system?
I doubt... might probably cause a huge rewrite of many parts in Rapid ... if doing updates is already too much, I doubt they will invest that work just to please "former clients".
They could just disappear and users couldn´t activate it anymore if there is a need because of machine changes.

This would be far from "it´s safe to use long-term" ...

This is the fear I have. I'm currently satisfied with what Rapid is offering as a synth, but I'm afraid they will shut down their license server, without providing a local solution. Based on the current track record, I believe they are not earning much revenue from new sales, so eventually the licenses server will be shut down, and in worst case that means nobody will be able to activate Rapid. I'm currently on a Mac, and haven't had the same problems as on my Windows PC (yet), but on my Windows PC I had to reactivate Rapid around once a quarter.

[Teksonik]

9 people out of 10 are saying: No, this is my expierience
1 people out of 10 aka Teksonik: You are all 9 are absolutely wrong, because my expierience is different and you are telling lies because i said so.
You invalidate others. Thats not my or other people problem. Its you, you are the problem.

You're not even making sense now. That is definitely a "you problem". I'm sorry you got triggered by someone posting an opinion that you either don't agree with or don't understand (or both).

But hey that's not going to stop me from giving my opinions so you'd better just block me to save you from any further emotional distress.