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Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:28 pm

woolyloach wrote:Meh.. I'm going to hold off on a new guitar until I get my chops back and decide if I'm going to play enough metal to justify the cost.

I need some weird FX first, so it's going to be spending some time with Electro-Harmoix gear..

I'm just gonna throw this out there because you're a smart dude...why not spend some time building some of those fx, the aforementioned guitarpcb.com is very helpful...mammoth electronics sells their kits painted enclosures very cheap as well), there is General Guitar Gadgets and byoc (build you own clone)...plus a lot more...byoc as well as guitarpcb have forums and tons of help not to mention our diy forum here. Kill three birds with one stone, get some great fx, save a lot of money and learn a ton of new skills.

Populating a circuit board is simple once you get started, anything that you have to worry about getting too much heat are mostly using sockets so there is no risk for damage and besides that it's something an 8 year old can do (I know I was 8 when I built a multi-meter kit)

tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:37 pm

I'd never heard of an 8 string Bass before this thread.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:00 pm

tapper mike wrote:I'd never heard of an 8 string Bass before this thread.

really? One of my best friends had an ibby 8 string bass in the early 80s...the thing weighed a friggan ton...he also had a black rick 4003

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:06 pm

http://buildyourownclone.com/confidence.html

wooly, start with this kit...byoc has boards with solder to make it even easier (I would not use an enclosure but that's me, this is a perfect onboard guitar pre) @14.99 what do you have to lose?

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:07 pm

Hink wrote:http://buildyourownclone.com/confidence.html

wooly, start with this kit...byoc has boards with solder to make it even easier (I would not use an enclosure but that's me, this is a perfect onboard guitar pre) @14.99 what do you have to lose?

That looks pretty interesting! I've been off-and-on interested in leqrning hardware (heh) and have been looking for something to do that is useful and motivating.

I found some solder but still no iron.. urgh. Might end up having to buy a new one, dag nab it!!!

ps. I ain't that smart, or I'd be rich!o

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:10 pm

tapper mike wrote:I'd never heard of an 8 string Bass before this thread.

I played one once, years ago.. as was mentioned the sucker weighed a damn ton AND fretting both strings at once was a serious finger workout.

Amazing sound, though, once I managed to get something out of it.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:35 pm

woolyloach wrote:
tapper mike wrote:I'd never heard of an 8 string Bass before this thread.
I played one once, years ago.. as was mentioned the sucker weighed a damn ton AND fretting both strings at once was a serious finger workout.

Amazing sound, though, once I managed to get something out of it.

I think the first time I heard (read) was back in the very late 70s when I noticed in the credits of Motorhead's 'Bomber' album that Lemmy played 8 string bass on one track. My first thought was a bass with 8 evenly spaced strings in the style of a Fender VI (

) but then I talked with someone who had played one who made me realize the strings were paired.

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:42 pm

robojam wrote:
woolyloach wrote:
tapper mike wrote:I'd never heard of an 8 string Bass before this thread.
I played one once, years ago.. as was mentioned the sucker weighed a damn ton AND fretting both strings at once was a serious finger workout.

Amazing sound, though, once I managed to get something out of it.
I think the first time I heard (read) was back in the very late 70s when I noticed in the credits of Motorhead's 'Bomber' album that Lemmy played 8 string bass on one track. My first thought was a bass with 8 evenly spaced strings in the style of a Fender VI ( ) but then I talked with someone who had played one who made me realize the strings were paired.

Eight single strings would make for a HUGE neck!

I think Conklin makes a seen string bass.. oh yeah, here:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/bass/con ... ass-guitar

Good GOD look at the neck on that mother!!

Seven strings! Six knobs! Two humongous pickups!

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:51 pm

woolyloach wrote:I think Conklin makes a seen string bass.. oh yeah, here:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/bass/con ... ass-guitar

Good GOD look at the neck on that mother!! Seven strings! Six knobs! Two humongous pickups!

Now there's a brown note waiting to happen...

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:57 pm

robojam wrote:
woolyloach wrote:I think Conklin makes a seen string bass.. oh yeah, here:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/bass/con ... ass-guitar

Good GOD look at the neck on that mother!! Seven strings! Six knobs! Two humongous pickups!
Now there's a brown note waiting to happen...

BASS SOLO!!!!

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:07 pm

tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:31 pm

In regards to 6 or 7 string basses I'd rather have an uncrossed mobius megatar with 5 bass strings and 7 guitar strings.

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:40 pm

Hmm... starter kits for building pedals not too expensive, comes with all the tools, and I don't have to keep trying to find my !@$@#$@!#$-ing lost iron.

Thursday is Payday.. I'm seriously tempted..

*throws inflatable trout at Hink for posting interesting site*

Argh, now I want one of these:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/bass/esp ... -maple-top

I think I spent too much time this weekend jamming out on my bass..

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:44 pm

tapper mike wrote:In regards to 6 or 7 string basses I'd rather have an uncrossed mobius megatar with 5 bass strings and 7 guitar strings.

Looks amazingly like a Chapman Stick. Would be interesting to own, maybe.

tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:26 pm

The thing about standard chapman sticks is they are a bear to learn.
On a stick the bass strings start out with the lowest notes in the middle then spread upward (note wise) from the center of the nut.

Megatars, and warr's, zen tappers are strung differently. A standard setup is much like a guitar/bass start with the lowest string being nearest your head and each string above stays in order (usually 4ths)

An uncrossed tuning is a bit of a misnomer. It means uncross your hands. and is based only very slightly on the original touch guitar built by Dave Bunker.

Bunker was building touch guitars long long before Emmet Chapman came around. The thing was he was having to good a time playing Las Vegas with pretty show girls to sit down and produce them.

Uncross simply means your hands dont cross each other to play the instrument. The bass strings start roughly in the middle but are under the melody strings.

This is an example of an uncrossed megatar

Much easier when you don't have to reach for or cross you hands

Your next guitar?