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xtp wrote:
Dean Aka Nekro wrote:
Big ass extra jumbo frets

No gold hardware, Anywhere whatsoever
Hi Dean, if you dont mind me asking, why not gold?

Also what do you see the advantage in having jumbo frets.

I have a neck that is going on my guitar next year [its been here for 2 years], it already came fretted, but I am going to have the Luthier remove the fingerboard because I have a 24 fret fingerboard I purchased seperately.

I will need to refret. I have never had jumbo's before, I was going to go for standards.
Hello xtp, Sorry I've not been able to get back to you sooner. Here is what I find to work in favour of big high and wide extra jumbo frets, Obviously this is just my very humble honest opinion and others may feel totally different. So anyway - Note Bending Is Easier: Many players feel that they can use a lighter touch when playing a guitar with extra-jumbo frets. When the strings are depressed on the neck, they are less likely to come in contact with the fretboard when compared to a guitar with smaller frets. This creates less friction between the player's fingers and the guitar's neck, and makes it easier to bend strings. Same for hammer ons/offs and pull ons/offs...etc. Also the "lighter touch" really saves on string breaking which as we all know adds up. Also using heavier gauge strings feels 'normal' which IMveryhumbleHO helps; More mass. On the flip side your regular/goto gauge will feel alot lighter. Enables Playing Faster: Many players claim that a guitar with extra-jumbo frets has an almost "scalloped" feel to the neck, meaning it's possible to play without the player's fingers ever coming into contact with the wooden fretboard itself. Players who employ a lot of tapping into their playing often find that they're able to play faster on guitars with extra-jumbo frets, with better clarity and note separation. Ask our Uncle about scalloped neck and how this route is alot cheaper than a full-on JYM scalloped board...IMveryhumbleHO the best meeting in the middle/compromize bottom line. Not that it is all about speed as it is not everyone's want/need/aim but playing slow feels great also. The Actual Frets Last ALOT Longer: Guitar players who incorporate a lot of bends into their playing often find that their frets wear down faster than they would like. This is especially true of people who play frequently, or for extended periods. Because they physically have more material, extra-jumbo frets often last longer than smaller frets. This allows the player to go longer between fret jobs, which can cost hundreds of pounds/dollars/Euros (Or Any other currency here) :) So yeah take way more abuse and allows many, many years of re-crowning/dressing. Especially On a Floyd based shred machine it just works I find. Even/Consistent Sound: Many players feel that guitars with small frets are more sensitive to finger positioning, forcing the player to be more accurate when fretting notes. Extra-jumbo frets are less sensitive, allowing less experienced players, or players who play fast, technical pieces, to worry less about finger positioning, especially when playing chords. This helps to create a cleaner, more consistent sound across the fretboard. Together with point one just adds up to a more fluid feel both on low string riffing over and up to high octane widdling...Well it just works for me personally. - So any cons? Why of course there will always be, For Me personally it is this and I know many players whom are guilty of this, It can lead to one becoming lazy and become used to using less brute force (It happens naturally so its not actually a case of the player being lazy or not being able to deliver more brute force unless all you play is the same guitar, setup and style). So when going for an acoustic for example it will feel more difficult to play/need alot more brute force (Still not a massive con aslong as you either don't mind that or have a not so nice acoustic to practice with also regular). You might find yourself using pinch harmonics alot more as they jump out alot easier (Thats a good thing to me but it may not be the same for everyone obviously)

Hope that is of some use to you and all the best to all as always :D

Dean

PS: No Gold as it soon goes green as hibidy said whereas chrome/plain or black just go mucky but still definately do not corrode like the gold plated hardware does. OTOT Eric likes it all gold blinging just abit too much :hihi:

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Uncle E wrote:
Dean Aka Nekro wrote:My opinion yes Eric. What I would like:
Sweet! Thank you!

Problem with a cheapy neck pickup is an EMG bridge will no longer be possible.

What would you think of having a single 707TW Dual Mode in the bridge? I'm wondering if you could tune your rig for the single coil mode, then switch to humbucker when you want highs rolled off.
Well personally sack the active route and go for a Duncan Distortion or DiMarzio Crunchlab bucker (Or whichever seems the most popular, quality and obviously cheapest). Then we have the tone pot for use (maybe pull for coil tap...depends on bucker of choice really) and yeah whilst it will not deliver the sweetest 'warm' clean tones its plenty for a budget 7-string, Floyd equiped shredder. Just me but the neck pickup could easily be sacked off altogether. So a sole EMG or SD Blackout would/should be feasable also but I'm not always battery powered. So off course its your call dude, Perhaps run a little poll with customers that are into shred which make/model comes up most often? :)

Indeed totally possible to setup clean channel and br00tal channel to work for just the one humbucker with the tone rolled off for the cleans :tu:

Hope I'm making some sense mate, Cheers

Dean

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Ha, I found my soldering iron! It was in the same box I had my spare DVD drive.. weird..

Now I'm on a tool search - the bridge of the Ibanez bass needs some weird teeny tiny Allen wrench to adjust height (the action is WAY too high) and I don't have anything like it. I know nobody near me carries such a thing so I guess I need to look online.

Going to need to check out the headstock/foot of the neck and see what's needed to adjust the relief.. neck looks fine right now but I want to be prepared. :hihi: :hihi:
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hibidy, I just found this on the Seymour Duncan site:

Humbuckers have their bobbins fixed on a metal plate, called the baseplate. If you have a brass plate (which is not a material used by Seymour Duncan) you can swap the base plate with some tweaking, screwing and soldering, for a nickel silver specimen. This will clear up the tone of your pickup. I have done this myself several times with good results. You won't get a lot of clarity, but it can be just enough to make a difference for you. Conversely, you can swap out your nickel silver plate for a brass one to subtly warm things up. This trick does not work on single coils, of course. Single coils are constructed in a completely different way and are less tweakable than humbuckers.

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Dean Aka Nekro wrote:Well personally sack the active route and go for a Duncan Distortion or DiMarzio Crunchlab bucker (Or whichever seems the most popular, quality and obviously cheapest). Then we have the tone pot for use (maybe pull for coil tap...depends on bucker of choice really) and yeah whilst it will not deliver the sweetest 'warm' clean tones its plenty for a budget 7-string, Floyd equiped shredder. Just me but the neck pickup could easily be sacked off altogether. So a sole EMG or SD Blackout would/should be feasable also but I'm not always battery powered. So off course its your call dude, Perhaps run a little poll with customers that are into shred which make/model comes up most often? :)
Perfect! Thank you! :)

btw, we're going the Henry Ford route: any color as long as it's black. :)

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Uncle E wrote:hibidy, I just found this on the Seymour Duncan site:

Humbuckers have their bobbins fixed on a metal plate, called the baseplate. If you have a brass plate (which is not a material used by Seymour Duncan) you can swap the base plate with some tweaking, screwing and soldering, for a nickel silver specimen. This will clear up the tone of your pickup. I have done this myself several times with good results. You won't get a lot of clarity, but it can be just enough to make a difference for you. Conversely, you can swap out your nickel silver plate for a brass one to subtly warm things up. This trick does not work on single coils, of course. Single coils are constructed in a completely different way and are less tweakable than humbuckers.
Thanks man. For me, it's a looks thing. It doesn't look bad with the black one and the brass one, but it's not as nice looking as if they were both brass.

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This is how it looks stock. With the mount plates in that brassish color, they look REALLY nice! My 1421 (hardtail/same guitar) looks SICK with both brass.....perfect match for that color.

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That does look nice, really nice.
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hibidy wrote:Thanks man. For me, it's a looks thing.
Sure. I just thought it was interesting that there's a sonic reason for why Dimarzio doesn't use consistent base plates.

And I agree with Mike, that looks great!

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Has anyone ever had any experience (or even heard of) Kinman pickups?

http://www.kinman.com/index.php

I'm considering putting together a guitar (probably a Tele-style) and I can easily get pretty much everything except pickups. I heard about these pickups simply by talking to a luthier who used to work with this guy. (We didn't talk about the pickups, but I found links on the luthier's website.)

I tend to be more interested in this kind of product than the big names like Dimarzio or Seymour Duncan. Much more fun! :D
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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pough wrote:Has anyone ever had any experience (or even heard of) Kinman pickups?

http://www.kinman.com/index.php

I'm considering putting together a guitar (probably a Tele-style) and I can easily get pretty much everything except pickups. I heard about these pickups simply by talking to a luthier who used to work with this guy. (We didn't talk about the pickups, but I found links on the luthier's website.)

I tend to be more interested in this kind of product than the big names like Dimarzio or Seymour Duncan. Much more fun! :D
Kinman is a fairly well-known boutique pup winder. Fralin is another one. You'll find fans and pans on all pickups.

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pough wrote:I'm considering putting together a guitar (probably a Tele-style) and I can easily get pretty much everything except pickups. I heard about these pickups simply by talking to a luthier who used to work with this guy.
I have a set of Kinman's in one of my strats. They're good, legit single coil-like pickups, particularly in the neck and middle positions where real single coils excel. I actually don't like real single coils in the bridge of a strat and thus I don't like the Kinman much there, either (I prefer a Fender Noiseless or Dimarzio HS-3 in that case) but a Kinman in the bridge would be excellent if you're specifically after the true twang of a tele.

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Dean Aka Nekro wrote: Note Bending Is Easier: Many players feel that they can use a lighter touch when playing a guitar with extra-jumbo frets.

When the strings are depressed on the neck, they are less likely to come in contact with the fretboard when compared to a guitar with smaller frets.

This creates less friction between the player's fingers and the guitar's neck, and makes it easier to bend strings.

Same for hammer ons/offs and pull ons/offs...etc.
Hi Dean, cheers for your thoughts.

The new neck I have sitting here came fretted with jumbo's and they look like they would be quite comfortable to play.

I am going to have the fingerboard replaced so it will be a full refret no matter what I do.

I play more of a blues/jazz style and have always had my guitars set up with medium frets filed low, which means there is a lot of fingerboard contact.

Sometimes its nice to try something different.

I guess if I try it and do not like it I can always get another refret.

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xtp wrote:I am going to have the fingerboard replaced so it will be a full refret no matter what I do.
Woah! :-o

You might want to consider one of these first:

http://www.warmoth.com/Pages/ClassicSho ... sort=price

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Does anyone know what the typical size of Allen wrench is used for those tiny adjustment pieces in the bridge, for string height? I need to buy a set to dink around with my Ibanez bass and there's no documentation on the Ibanez site for this kind of thing... :help: :help:

After 3 hours jamming out on my Strat last night I've made a final decision NOT TO MESS WITH IT, I love the tone for fingerpicking, unprocessed stuff, blues, jazz, and light rock. :hihi: :hihi:

This means a trip out to find a project guitar! And no I can't afford a pile of Warmoth parts, nor do I have the necessary skills to do anything fancier than replace pickups! :cry: :cry:
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woolyloach wrote:Does anyone know what the typical size of Allen wrench is used for those tiny adjustment pieces in the bridge, for string height? I need to buy a set to dink around with my Ibanez bass and there's no documentation on the Ibanez site for this kind of thing... :help: :help:
I have two prestige and two "premium" tools and I think it's a 1.5mm for that (might be two mm ) anyway, go to sears and get a set, I'm pretty sure they are not expensive. There are many you won't use but it's handy to buy the set. The Strat ones are going to be smaller so it's just nice to have them all.

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