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vespers75 wrote:
izdewatel wrote:Greetings to all!
In my modest opinion the best sound turns out at use of plug-ins-Nick Crow
Wagner Sharp v0.6 with Mercuriall cab...

I have tested all (ALL!) the program for Windows XP and better hasn't found.
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Sascha Franck wrote:
monkeymanx wrote:Honestly, I can get just as good sounds for my stuff from some of the free amps and using the red wirez impulses.
Well, for me it'd be a matter of live useage, and I still can't see myself regularly using a laptop yet - I already tried a few times and my biggest troubles have been to find a safe place onstage for the goddamn thing.
I mean, unlike keyboarders, as a guitar player you usually don't have any comparatively safe stands with you.

- Sascha
I can't find the link, but at least one stand vendor is making laptop+gear stands. I saw a band in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago and both guitarists were completely running laptop rigs. I don't know which software. But, the laptops were on stands off to each edge of the stage on ruggedized stands that were obviously built for the job.

Sounded like shit though :)
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Every time this thread resurfaces I do the same thing. Listen to a few examples. Think, "Oh, that sounds really good." Wonder why they don't have any distribution. Wonder why the price is so high. Listen to my amp sims. Think, "Oh that sounds really good."

I did hear one in person. It did sound good to me. The owner complained about how the cab emulation sucked and explained how he'd bypass it and use impulses. So for $2K I have to have a computer running convolusion software as well? :hihi: For that money I'd probably get a good amp set up instead.

If I were unsatisfied with Amplitube and the plethora of VSTs I use along side of it, I'm sure I'd be sniff'n around for one of these. But I've yet to have a session where I couldn't quickly dial in a sound that satisfies me. Usually I'm ecstatic.
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The axe-fx is one of those items you buy or you don't (like everything else in life that isn't free).
I have it and it's great.
Others don't have it and their stuff is great. Win win.

But it's worth trying before totally dismissing.
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dodokvr wrote:The axe-fx is one of those items you buy or you don't (like everything else in life that isn't free).
I have it and it's great.
Others don't have it and their stuff is great. Win win.

But it's worth trying before totally dismissing.
while I totally agree it might be a while before I would do that, the simple reason being that I have AT3, GR4 and GTR3.5 for sims, and then there's VANDAL which is unlike any of the other three. On top of that I'm really getting into some of the low power tube heads now that I have the place to mic up a cab. For years I couldn't though I have had my boogie for years and I do have a weber attenuator, but recently I added an Egnater Rebel and there are a few more heads I want to add a few more blus a handmade T5 BUD-25 and at this point those take priority* over axe-fx right now for me. :)

*naturally these things are subject to change as I try not to tie myself down too much and am not afraid to change my mind :tu:
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dodokvr wrote:The axe-fx .......
I have it and it's great......
I'm enjoying mine much more with a better setup. I run the L/R unbalanced out into a M80, then reverb, then soundcard, and the L/R balanced out into an Ashly 308, reverb and then soundcard.
In the DAW I use Flux's free Stereo Tool for a little stereo panning and mid/side boost.
The Axe gate is way cool, very effective and unobtrusive, and a major advantage over the noisy POD I had before.

Price ?? well, tis true that I am still a little scared of 'breaking it' somehow .... but comparing the number of years I'd hope to be using it makes the initial purchase easier to rationalize.

It seems to have a small hole at 2 k which I don't understand.
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SJ_Digriz wrote: I can't find the link, but at least one stand vendor is making laptop+gear stands. I saw a band in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago and both guitarists were completely running laptop rigs. I don't know which software. But, the laptops were on stands off to each edge of the stage on ruggedized stands that were obviously built for the job.
Well, I actually used one of those laptop stands for 2 gigs, I also used a rack caddy for the (almost closed) laptop - so, that was sorted.
Still, there's rather high chances that, say, during a tour, moisture could become an issue (as transportation of a fragile unit such as a laptop in general).
In addition, if you really use your laptop live on a regular base, you *need* a dedicated one. I mean, there's rather high chances live equipment gets stolen, breaks up, etc. Do I really want my office, production and whatever machine to get stolen/broken at the same time? Defenitely not, even if I really care about backups and the likes (which is what I'm doing).
Add a decent audio interface and a specialized rack to that, and we're getting quite closer to the cost of an Axe-FX already.
Sounded like shit though :)
Well, it's all up to the user, IMHO.
Personally, I've got some really nice comments about my sound, when I had to switch from a POD XT (which was broken) to my laptop and GR (version 3 even) setup during some musical production.
I was scared all during the shows, though, it's been a half-outside stage and it was raining like mad that year.
zerocrossing wrote:The owner complained about how the cab emulation sucked and explained how he'd bypass it and use impulses. So for $2K I have to have a computer running convolusion software as well? :hihi: For that money I'd probably get a good amp set up instead.
Well, the Axe-FX is able to load IRs on it's own.

Cheers
Sascha
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Sascha Franck wrote: Well, it's all up to the user, IMHO.
Personally, I've got some really nice comments about my sound, when I had to switch from a POD XT (which was broken) to my laptop and GR (version 3 even) setup during some musical production.
I was scared all during the shows, though, it's been a half-outside stage and it was raining like mad that year.
My comment probably came out a little poorly. I wasn't insinuating that a completely soft rig would sound bad. Just that even with all that tech and capability, it's still up to the players and techs to get it to sound right. Laptop rigs are not a silver bullet for good live sound.

Probably sounded great on their monitors, but it was a swampy washed out mess with a piercing top end in the room.
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Does anybody know if there'll be an Axe-PC? Or they stopped that effort completely?
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Sascha Franck wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote: I can't find the link, but at least one stand vendor is making laptop+gear stands. I saw a band in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago and both guitarists were completely running laptop rigs. I don't know which software. But, the laptops were on stands off to each edge of the stage on ruggedized stands that were obviously built for the job.
Well, I actually used one of those laptop stands for 2 gigs, I also used a rack caddy for the (almost closed) laptop - so, that was sorted.
Still, there's rather high chances that, say, during a tour, moisture could become an issue (as transportation of a fragile unit such as a laptop in general).
In addition, if you really use your laptop live on a regular base, you *need* a dedicated one. I mean, there's rather high chances live equipment gets stolen, breaks up, etc. Do I really want my office, production and whatever machine to get stolen/broken at the same time? Defenitely not, even if I really care about backups and the likes (which is what I'm doing).
Add a decent audio interface and a specialized rack to that, and we're getting quite closer to the cost of an Axe-FX already.
Sounded like shit though :)
Well, it's all up to the user, IMHO.
Personally, I've got some really nice comments about my sound, when I had to switch from a POD XT (which was broken) to my laptop and GR (version 3 even) setup during some musical production.
I was scared all during the shows, though, it's been a half-outside stage and it was raining like mad that year.
zerocrossing wrote:The owner complained about how the cab emulation sucked and explained how he'd bypass it and use impulses. So for $2K I have to have a computer running convolusion software as well? :hihi: For that money I'd probably get a good amp set up instead.
Well, the Axe-FX is able to load IRs on it's own.

Cheers
Sascha
Hi Sascha, how are you doing...as I recall a new addition is on the way soon correct?

Anyhow, I thought you were using Vox amps on your tour, or was that like ten tours ago and I'm getting real old? In my impossible to read thread above I mentioned the Egnater Rebel 20 and thought about you while playing with it. About a million years ago you told me how much better pre's sounded with tube power amps and with the fx loop on the Rebel I can run my Marshall Tube Pre into the Egnater power amp (which has both el34 and 6v6 power power tubes with a unique blend control)...you were spot on.

On that note if you're looking for a little tube head with enogh power (20 watts) for smaller venues this is a gem.

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comes with a cool bag too

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I remember when the Egnater tourmaster came out we talked about it briefly and you thought it was a bit too large. Well this is worth a test run if you have the time, if you want channel switching the 30 watt Rebel has got you covered but I don't know if it has the blend control...which is really awesome.

Good to see you, and best wishes for the future :tu:
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fateamenabletochange wrote: It seems to have a small hole at 2 k which I don't understand.
Maybe it's an echo of the 2k hole in your bank account? :lol: Sorry. :oops: I saw the opportunity and I had to go for it.

I actually don't doubt it's worth the money. I just question, is it worth it to me, a guy who's done with professional playing and just entertaining himself.
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I dont think there is a single clip that doesnt lack the depth of harmonics that the real amp has. The Recto is a prime example. The real amp is so full of fat lowmid and upper harmonics--the Axe is missing like 60% of what's there. On all these amps there is a fullness when the chord is hit that is just not there. Leads are fine..but single string notes are not modelers problem. In auditioning sound..leads shouldnt even be included as they carry none of the depth that alerts the ear if the amp model is correct.
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For me, the opposite is true. I can get pretty good chords but unless I use an eq and LPF leads are almost always fizzy and harsh.
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