epicVerb 1.5 released

[Hitchcock Bell]

I put this up against the Aether demo, specifically Aether's excellent Concert Recital preset, and found that, with a bit of tweaking, it holds up very well indeed. Aether seems to have the advantage of an extra degree of spatial separation and depth when processing complex orchestral material. Indeed, Aether is probably the best reverb plug-in around at the moment for this kind of work. Yet, Epic Verb may well be as good if not better than any other commercial reverb.

So BRILLIANT WORK, Bootsie. And in these recessionary days, you're an absolute HERO for keeping it free.

Thank you.

[shanecgriffo]

just as an addition, Bootsie..
i havent had trouble with any of the other plugins you made. just epicverb with my amd xp chip.
Do you think there'll be a solution

If it actually is what I think atm then there will be a hotfix out to the end of this week.

that'll be great.. hope its what you think!
(details-it freezes on launch and causes 'not responding' for ableton
..soon after one of my other projects in live wouldnt load, even tho it didnt contain epic verb, not sure if thats related or not.. also upon launching live various times i noticed that epic verb was being initialised as a 'new' plugin on the live splash/startup screen. i think it should only appear there the once, the first time it is installed and run., hope any of that helps bootsie)

[freddemillio]

It loaded and ran fine in Wavelab5 and Cubase SX3.

Bootsie, thank you very much for your generous contribution to the community.

[Chester Desmond]

It worked fine in Tracktion 3. I only had a chance to demo a few presets but I really, really liked what it added to the sound. It's just there without being too obvious and made me want to play. Thank you very much for this excellent plug-in.

[susiwong]

epicVerb sounds just great to my ears, finally the warm, lush ballad reverb (among many other cool things) I've been wishing for ITB.
So I'm afraid CSR and UAD reverbs will see a lot less use here in the future.
An extremely cool M/S application I found is to put two near identical eVs on sends, one set mainly to M and the other to S. Then use the M send for lead vocals and the S send for background as a starting point in the chorus, mix and match to taste for a big, coherent vocal sound while still retaining separation.
Of course you'll want a different mix of the sends during the verse when the lead singer is more in focus.
I'm just starting to scratch the surface here.
Another thing that's perfect for me is the UI concept, totally intuitive and fast to get the results I'm going for, no need for external filtering or EQ anymore.
And like already mentioned, it never gets metallic or obtrusive to my ears, on the contrary, I have to control myself not to overdo the reverb aspect most of the time, an effect I only know from the big Lexicons (300 up) and the Roland 880.
What a wonderful creative tool !
Cheers,
susiwong


As for the presets with various mix levels, maybe someone else will find the time to share an fxb or whatever version, I can only save vstpresets in C4.

[afreshcupofjoe]

Wow... just wow... this is a really nice reverb!!!!


Thank you bootsie!

[bmanic]

And like already mentioned, it never gets metallic or obtrusive to my ears, on the contrary, I have to control myself not to overdo the reverb aspect most of the time, an effect I only know from the big Lexicons (300 up) and the Roland 880.

Exactly my feeling of this thing as well. I keep adding too much of it because it never gets in the way! Darn Bootsie is really up to something here.

However, what I cannot seem to get from it is a sort of "grainy"/fizzy reverb that doesn't go metallic.. it's useful in some cases but for that I just use something else. Actually, I don't know of anything else doing that grainy but good thing.. like some old units do (eventide, lexicon etc). Epicverb is more "wobbly", it seems to contain large chunks of modulated delays instead of tiny grains.

Cheers!
bManic

[LOSER]

5. Just found the first real BUG:

I can make the early reflection's time knobs to disappear once in a while! Very strange thing. A knob can disappear sometimes on CTRL+Click. Another click makes is re-appear. But

In which hosts are you working and does it appear? Can other confirm this?

Confirmed. Just CTRL click right between the ER time and level knobs makes the ER time knob disappear. Seems the ER level knob's hitbox is too big or something.

[Dandruff]

5. Just found the first real BUG:

I can make the early reflection's time knobs to disappear once in a while! Very strange thing. A knob can disappear sometimes on CTRL+Click. Another click makes is re-appear. But

In which hosts are you working and does it appear? Can other confirm this?

Confirmed. Just CTRL click right between the ER time and level knobs makes the ER time knob disappear. Seems the ER level knob's hitbox is too big or something.

Ahh, nice spotted LOSER! I can confirm your findings! 100% reproducable.

[mystran]

And like already mentioned, it never gets metallic or obtrusive to my ears, on the contrary, I have to control myself not to overdo the reverb aspect most of the time, an effect I only know from the big Lexicons (300 up) and the Roland 880.

Exactly my feeling of this thing as well. I keep adding too much of it because it never gets in the way! Darn Bootsie is really up to something here.

Agree.. this gotta be one of the best general purpose plugin reverbs (one of the approximately three plugin reverbs that I actually like; and I've tried practically every plugin reverb that has a demo available, and most of the stuff people keep hyping sounds more or less awful), and the funniest thing it doesn't sound special at all... in the sense that it just drops some nice reverb behind the track without sounding much like an effect (like most other reverbs). On the other hand, the ERs kinda force a certain distance to the sound (see below) such that too much reverb starts sounding like there was too little direct sound (which is backwardish 'cos typical reverb sounds like there was too much reverb).

However, what I cannot seem to get from it is a sort of "grainy"/fizzy reverb that doesn't go metallic.. it's useful in some cases but for that I just use something else. Actually, I don't know of anything else doing that grainy but good thing.. like some old units do (eventide, lexicon etc). Epicverb is more "wobbly", it seems to contain large chunks of modulated delays instead of tiny grains.

Hmmh.. I read that probably ten times, and each time I came to a different conclusion about what exactly it would be that you mean.

What I personally can't get out of epicVerb is the ability to put the track really far; I mean maybe around 20-30 meters or something works, but not like 500 meters away. On the other hand, as long as you want your tracks at reasonable distance, and would prefer to reverb to stay behind, it works quite nice.

[afreshcupofjoe]

However, what I cannot seem to get from it is a sort of "grainy"/fizzy reverb that doesn't go metallic.. it's useful in some cases but for that I just use something else. Actually, I don't know of anything else doing that grainy but good thing.. like some old units do (eventide, lexicon etc). Epicverb is more "wobbly", it seems to contain large chunks of modulated delays instead of tiny grains.

Cheers!
bManic

Funny, I was trying to get it to do the same thing. I found that layering a really short delay with a lot of feedback underneath the verb added a lot of that grainyness into the sound that's missing. It's just too freaking smooth! Now I think I just need to mix in a smidgen of bitcrushing to get that 80s digital sound going and make it a bit less pristine.

[D.Wako]

5. Just found the first real BUG:

I can make the early reflection's time knobs to disappear once in a while! Very strange thing. A knob can disappear sometimes on CTRL+Click. Another click makes is re-appear. But

In which hosts are you working and does it appear? Can other confirm this?

Confirmed. Just CTRL click right between the ER time and level knobs makes the ER time knob disappear. Seems the ER level knob's hitbox is too big or something.

Ahh, nice spotted LOSER! I can confirm your findings! 100% reproducable.

I can reproduce it here as well. But if you click where the the knobs are suppose to be they will reappear. Just tough I'd mentioned this.

[D.Wako]

This crashes Chainer from XLutop on my Intel P3 700 mhz.

OK, this is my net PC where i test stuff so it doesn't matter if it works or not.

But gave Epic verb a quick run on 3 other PCs and they seem to work fine. 2 of them were intel 2.4 IBM severs and the other was an intel 2.8 from DELL.

Epic verb sounds great. Love the GUI, perfect size/color, and the control works great.

Thanks you VERY much.

[poshook]

just as an addition, Bootsie..
i havent had trouble with any of the other plugins you made. just epicverb with my amd xp chip.
Do you think there'll be a solution

If it actually is what I think atm then there will be a hotfix out to the end of this week.

that'll be great.. hope its what you think!
(details-it freezes on launch and causes 'not responding' for ableton
..soon after one of my other projects in live wouldnt load, even tho it didnt contain epic verb, not sure if thats related or not.. also upon launching live various times i noticed that epic verb was being initialised as a 'new' plugin on the live splash/startup screen. i think it should only appear there the once, the first time it is installed and run., hope any of that helps bootsie)

same here in Live 7, FLStudio 8 and Reaper... on old machine (1700XP Athlon)

[bootsie]

5. Just found the first real BUG:

I can make the early reflection's time knobs to disappear once in a while! Very strange thing. A knob can disappear sometimes on CTRL+Click. Another click makes is re-appear. But

In which hosts are you working and does it appear? Can other confirm this?

Confirmed. Just CTRL click right between the ER time and level knobs makes the ER time knob disappear. Seems the ER level knob's hitbox is too big or something.

Ahh, nice spotted LOSER! I can confirm your findings! 100% reproducable.

I can reproduce it here as well. But if you click where the the knobs are suppose to be they will reappear. Just tough I'd mentioned this.

That's already enough information to fix it and so all the other grafic glitches mentioned so far are not a big deal and will be easy to fix.

The AMD Athlon SSE issues is much worse since most of them are (probably) some known incompatibility of first AMD SSE implementations and the Synthmaker compiler. And epicVerb uses SSE *entirely* to it's advantage. But let's figure that out finally.

However, many, many thanks so far to all of you for the overwhelming feedback!
It's a really grateful pleasure after one year of intensive work and lots of frustrating setbacks during that time