Most CPU efficient host?

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What is the most efficient host CPU wise?

Cubase
16
8%
Logic
26
14%
Studio One
19
10%
Sonar
6
3%
Reaper
99
52%
Acid
4
2%
Digital Performer
3
2%
energyXT
4
2%
FL Studio
13
7%
MuLab
2
1%
 
Total votes: 192

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tony tony chopper wrote:
For task A, the sum of instructions*cpu cycles that will complete the task will always be faster than more instructions*cpu cycles.
Take convolution, in its simplest form it's just a few operations, in its fast form it's quite complex, involves partitioning using FFTs.
I Said "Task A"

You failed at understanding and replied:
tony tony chopper wrote:in its simplest form it's just a few operations
=Task A
tony tony chopper wrote:in its fast form it's quite complex, involves partitioning using FFTs
=Task B

You are fairly knowledgeable, but you are not as good at communicating with people.
I am sure you know that these two are NOT the same thing, but you used it as an argument = fail.

So lets put them both as text string value of variable "Task A":
For convolution in its simplest form, the sum of instructions*cpu cycles that will complete the task will always be faster than more instructions*cpu cycles.
For convolution in its fast form, the sum of instructions*cpu cycles that will complete the task will always be faster than more instructions*cpu cycles.
Get it ? :D
tony tony chopper wrote:(& even though you wanted to write something that sounds like something that can't be argued, yes it still can. The CPU cycle an instruction takes isn't its only property. Its ability to pair (& with what it can), its behavior with cache, its possible penalties..
I am fully aware of all that, i started programming at about 10 years old (sure i never achieved a status of a computer programming wizard, but i know my stuff) :)

If by "instructions*cpu cycles" i mean lets say 100 total cycles, then 110 total cycles achieving the EXACT SAME THING will be less optimized code and will take longer to compute.
tony tony chopper wrote:yes, more instructions*cpu cycles can end up faster)
So 100 cycles slower than 110 cycles.

Yeah right... :D :wink:
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If by "instructions*cpu cycles" i mean lets say 100 total cycles, then 110 total cycles achieving the EXACT SAME THING will be less optimized code and will take longer to compute.
then that's pretty much the same as saying "if it's slower then it means it's slower", so I don't see the point.

So yes, I agree that if a host has faster processing, it will process faster. But it's not linked to the complexity of the code.
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tony tony chopper wrote:So yes, I agree that if a host has faster processing, it will process faster. But it's not linked to the complexity of the code.
In my vocabulary complexity = more steps and simplicity = less steps.
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In my vocabulary complexity = more steps and simplicity = less steps.
and more steps doesn't mean slower..
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tony tony chopper wrote:
In my vocabulary complexity = more steps and simplicity = less steps.
and more steps doesn't mean slower..
http://www.codepedia.com/1/CPU+cycles

Not in his case:


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@machinesworking...the i7 is a quadcore. No OC'ing was used as well here.
Barry
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braj wrote:I was also wondering about just a wrapper to host DIVA to her fullest possible on my hardware without a lot of overhead, something I could load and just play without the host sucking up any juice. Anyone have any recommendations regarding that?
If you really want all the power you have to use with Diva, then I would use
Game Prelauncher and Reaper.
http://www.gameprelauncher.com/eng/downloadgp.htm

mindblowing power!
Riley :D
Macbook Pro M4, Ableton 12 Suite, NI Komplete

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riley4reason wrote:
braj wrote:I was also wondering about just a wrapper to host DIVA to her fullest possible on my hardware without a lot of overhead, something I could load and just play without the host sucking up any juice. Anyone have any recommendations regarding that?
If you really want all the power you have to use with Diva, then I would use
Game Prelauncher and Reaper.
http://www.gameprelauncher.com/eng/downloadgp.htm

mindblowing power!
Riley :D
It would be great if someone developed a CUDA wrapper for synths if this is possible.

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riley4reason wrote:
braj wrote:I was also wondering about just a wrapper to host DIVA to her fullest possible on my hardware without a lot of overhead, something I could load and just play without the host sucking up any juice. Anyone have any recommendations regarding that?
If you really want all the power you have to use with Diva, then I would use
Game Prelauncher and Reaper.
http://www.gameprelauncher.com/eng/downloadgp.htm

mindblowing power!
Riley :D
Cool, is that stable, ie. is there any risk of screwing up my system by using that?
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braj wrote:
riley4reason wrote:
braj wrote:I was also wondering about just a wrapper to host DIVA to her fullest possible on my hardware without a lot of overhead, something I could load and just play without the host sucking up any juice. Anyone have any recommendations regarding that?
If you really want all the power you have to use with Diva, then I would use
Game Prelauncher and Reaper.
http://www.gameprelauncher.com/eng/downloadgp.htm

mindblowing power!
Riley :D
Cool, is that stable, ie. is there any risk of screwing up my system by using that?
It is very stable with all my gear except Maschine, for some reason the Maschine hardware will not work, but the software will.
It's great with Reaper, Sonar and Live..
Riley :D
Macbook Pro M4, Ableton 12 Suite, NI Komplete

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munchkin wrote:
riley4reason wrote:
braj wrote:I was also wondering about just a wrapper to host DIVA to her fullest possible on my hardware without a lot of overhead, something I could load and just play without the host sucking up any juice. Anyone have any recommendations regarding that?
If you really want all the power you have to use with Diva, then I would use
Game Prelauncher and Reaper.
http://www.gameprelauncher.com/eng/downloadgp.htm

mindblowing power!
Riley :D
It would be great if someone developed a CUDA wrapper for synths if this is possible.
CUDA is useful for reverbs but not synths.

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riley4reason wrote:
braj wrote:I was also wondering about just a wrapper to host DIVA to her fullest possible on my hardware without a lot of overhead, something I could load and just play without the host sucking up any juice. Anyone have any recommendations regarding that?
If you really want all the power you have to use with Diva, then I would use
Game Prelauncher and Reaper.
http://www.gameprelauncher.com/eng/downloadgp.htm

mindblowing power!
Riley :D
I finally got around to trying Game Prelauncher, but my results weren't so mind-blowing. As far as I could tell I had about the same performance that I had before everything was disabled, I loaded the same project after reboot (though RAM use was lower, maybe just due to the reboot actually) and Diva basically started to crackle at the same point, with lots of sustained and decaying notes. CPU meter in Studio One may have been even higher, I'm not sure. I did load it with the Windows shell though. Can you run a DAW without Explorer etc running? Some plugins will invoke Explorer so I was thinking it would be risky to do without it. And S1 doesn't go full-screen so I'm not sure what the taskbar are would do, I frankly am a little wary myself of trying it :) Does the CPU you are on have much bearing on how much this tool helps?

Regarding host efficiency, I tried Studio One again and I don't know if anything changed in the code since I demo'd it before, but performance was about on par AFAIKT with Reaper, and I ended up buying it. So much for the assumption that my agenda was to slam other hosts on Reaper's behalf :hihi:

I also found this article on Presonus' forum, i am guessing it applies to most DAWs so I'm reposting it here, I installed on my laptop, I am having good performance in reaper and S1 Free on it so at least it doesn't break anything :)

http://presonus.zendesk.com/entries/203 ... studio-one
What exactly does this profile do?

This 'Audio Processing' profile disables processor idle states, processor throttling, core parking and Turbo Boost. You can go to the Power Options and deselect this profile at any time, if you want to use your computer as a low power media-server, for instance. Then, before (or while) running Studio One, select the 'Audio Processing' profile, and all is well.

To see the results of this power profile in action, open the Task Manager and view Performance, switching back and forth from the Audio Processing profile and any other. If this power profile has any negative impact on your system, simply switch to another profile. There are no permanent changes made to your system with this profile.
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@Braj
I did run it without the shell with Sonar, Maschine and Live 8, the difference was pretty impressive on my system. Since I have been using Reaper, I don't use Gameprelauncher much.

Riley
Macbook Pro M4, Ableton 12 Suite, NI Komplete

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riley4reason wrote:@Braj
I did run it without the shell with Sonar, Maschine and Live 8, the difference was pretty impressive on my system. Since I have been using Reaper, I don't use Gameprelauncher much.

Riley
Cool, thanks. Did you have any experiences with plugin opening Explorer windows? I know Trilian does this for midi files, I am sorta nervous :) Anyhow freeze is my friend, I'm not sure I need to worry about it too much. Besides, if my computer gets 'faster' my wife may say it can last longer before I upgrade. Maybe I need a way to slooooowwww it dooooowwwwwwnnnnnn instead :D
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FL studio? Eeeeeeeek!

*hits uninstall"

Yeah, I know, it's a drive by but at least I was looking at the CPU meter. That's how I was able to tell. Just in case someone asks :roll:

Oh, and of course all the multiprocessing stuff was on ;)

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