Cubase 7.5 official announcement!

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[urock]

Yes. It's very good. Not as versatile of course as the Lex has many different algorithms (i do have the PCM bundle, paid through the nose for it but it's still unusable in mac for me) The good news is i heard Lexicon are finally going to update and fix the bugs and give aax to PT people.

Quality is on par, no joke. I find a bad reverb will usually fall apart on drum hits, and i was easily able to get completely artefact free smooth decays. Then threw on a lex vintage plate (i can only use one and all my 8 cores max out ), and it sounded very similar. Very good. 10/10

Thank you for your insights! Sounds like this plug alone makes it (more than) worth the $49 upgrade from 7.

[AstralExistence]

im sorry if this is off topic and random but when you think about it, this new direction steinberg as a company are going is horrendous and i really cant and never will take them seriously again. you will never be able to convince me again that steinberg developers and steinberg products as a whole are anything but amateur products made for amateurs. there are no words to describe the unprofessional utter failure that steinberg as a company have become.

why am i so harsh in saying this? if one looks at the absolute mess that cubase7 steinberg is vs the absolute top of the line product reason is and propellerhead as a company is i cant see how anybody could see it any different. steinberg product demos are horrid, props product demos are top notch. steinberg products use so much cpu that they needed to rewrite the whole vst standard that being vst3 so that cubase shuts of the plugin when not in use.

the props on the other hand have synths that are so cpu efficient that its almost a game we reason users do. that is load as many synths as we can to see if we can overload our cpu. my brother in law has a first gen core duo with 2 gigs of ram and i was able to run unlimited subtractors, 20 malstroms, or 16 thors with 1 bass, 2 leads, and 1 pad copied 4 and pasted and still no pc too slow warning. that combined with the fact that long long before vst3 reason already utilized this no cpu when native plugin not being used shows the props are at the top of there game while steinberg is at the utter bottom.

then you have the absolute infinite tutorials on reason on youtube, tons of websites, and the props own youtube channel is a tutorial goldmine. and the props videos are always very cheerful and full of life with that really amazing narrator they use that you recognize immediately vs the drone like and lifeless vids steinberg produce. with props vids like, meet the propellerheads, the worlds largest drum machine, reason has a rack for inspiration, i am a reason user etc etc you can tell that the props are very very dedicated to reason and the success of reason.

lastly reasons audio engine is flawless it never stutters, under working cpu and i can absolutely till my last breath believe that you would never in hell see reason have such a huge mess like asioguard. it will never happen. the props have solved many of the toughest issues and challenges in the audio software world including cracking the multicore cpu issue. a problem that the props believed was impossible to solve and that many reason users believed would put the final nail in the reason coffin but after many many years of working out the the issues they finally succeeded in solving it and did so with flying colors.

they have been first in many new digital audio audio technologies too.

i believe that the props are the best of the best in digital audio and dsp technology and they will pave the way for new technology now and in the future.

i say all this as an owner of cubase 7 artist and because i was thinking of switching back to cubase but when i consider all the points i made i will never sell my reason and the future is very bright for propellerhead while the future of steinberg if they continue this utter paid beta testing bullshit is extremely bleak.

[juffi]

Yes. It's very good. Not as versatile of course as the Lex has many different algorithms (i do have the PCM bundle, paid through the nose for it but it's still unusable in mac for me) The good news is i heard Lexicon are finally going to update and fix the bugs and give aax to PT people.

Quality is on par, no joke. I find a bad reverb will usually fall apart on drum hits, and i was easily able to get completely artefact free smooth decays. Then threw on a lex vintage plate (i can only use one and all my 8 cores max out ), and it sounded very similar. Very good. 10/10

Thank you for your insights! Sounds like this plug alone makes it (more than) worth the $49 upgrade from 7.

I think the update is worth the money, the new reverb is really good. Actually i like Magneto II as well, was the first thing that i integrate in a new electro project. Magneto is more subtle ( probably many Tape saturation effects do so^^ ...) but it doesn't squish too much.

Groove Agent SE4 is quite interesting in conjunction with the pattern library and drum kits. So you can drag and drop patterns and get results quickly.

The new instrument racks doesn't save presets, thats a pity. And no decent bounce in place again, so i used my self made macro here.

The new features are more targetting to a better visibility and i don't use so much different takes or track versions. But in a chord track it is pretty nice to use track versions.

[Armadillosound]

Can anyone give a brief review on magneto II and new reverb..

Yes, i am very pleasantly surprised by magneto.

I may be in the minority, but it is one of my favourite "tape" plugins now. it just adds some really lovely saturation without getting ugly. I really like it!

The verb, well.. It's basically fantastic. Unlike any other host i know of, a Cubase 7 user can now, with a full stereo convo verb, a decent "room verb" and the new Lex style verb in 7.5 can now actually get away with not having *any* 3rd party reverb plugins at all.

i don't think there is a cross platform host with a better factory verb.

I agree totally the 3 reverbs cover things nicely.


Liking Magneto too

[lotus2035]

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...but Reason sounds like Arse.

[AstralExistence]

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...but Reason sounds like Arse.

seriously? i cant think of one sound used in electronic music that you cant make, tweak into, or buy from refill or sound designers. yes, its true for some very complex plugins it would very difficult to do a 1/1 copy but in the long run, and in terms of music and song production, the sounds done in reason would have no issue whatsoever in filling the same sonic space that the complex vst would fill. and its guaranteed that song listeners wont care and even think that this person is using malstrom instead of omnisphere, alchemy, or padshop, thor instead of zebra, massive, or predator, subtractor instead of imposcar, lush101, or diva kong/redrum instead of microtonic, tremor, or battery, or lastly nnxt instead of kontakt.

reason users dont care and neither to the listeners.
and with the very low low cpu of the reason natives, layering sounds will give you that very complex vsti sound anyway. besides some of musics biggest players use reason. reason is a professional solution that professionals use.

[lotus2035]

I've no doubt that you can get the results you want using Reason. I just think that at least for the earlier versions of Reason that didn't allow 3rd party synth and FX the sound quality was sub-par. I believe it was trade off for CPU usage which always was great with Reason for sure. Forgive my comment it was more in jest than anything.

[lotus2035]

Anyone here using 7.5 care to tell me how the hell you remove instruments in the new rack?
Deleting track instruments can be done in the main window just by deleting the track itself but I don't know how to delete either track instruments or rack instruments using the rack itself. I'm sure it's something very simple.

I tried the 7.5 manual but it still shows the old rack!

EDIT: Found it by a fluke. Click once on the name of the instrument. I was clicking twice (which allows you to rename the instrument).

[VitaminD]

<super long doom and gloom diatribe against Cubase/Steinberg>

Soooo..... I guess you won't be sending Steinberg a Christmas card this year?

[C-note]

im sorry if this is off topic and random but when you think about it, this new direction steinberg as a company are going is horrendous and i really cant and never will take them seriously again. you will never be able to convince me again that steinberg developers and steinberg products as a whole are anything but amateur products made for amateurs. there are no words to describe the unprofessional utter failure...

So, Steinberg makes amateur products because they use more resources than Reason? Because they make IYO, crappy product demos? Why would anyone care to convince you? There is a " Things I hate about Cubase" thread already, you could spend your music making time there or spend time trying to make Reason's tidy little environment create even a small portion of the great AU/VST sounds and features available in Cubase. Oh, and once upon a time DOS was king and Windows used too many resources and OS9 to OSX was... We'll you get the idea, right? Just sayin'

[AstralExistence]

<super long doom and gloom diatribe against Cubase/Steinberg>

Soooo..... I guess you won't be sending Steinberg a Christmas card this year?

but that's not really a fair statement. i had nothing but respect for steinberg when using cubase 6 its 7 that they totally dropped the ball on. i don't think ill be so reason positive and will probably be 'that guy' who makes jokes about reasons sub par malstrom vs padshop or why is subtractor so limited vs the tons of top analog vsti synths. or how reasons native effects suck vs vst effects.

its true that if steinberg fix cubase 8 i will ditch reason in a heartbeat. in cubases v7 buggy state its pretty much 'despise what you cant have' rather then cubase is a shitty daw. i will admit that. its just that i bought cubase more then a year ago and in that year period cubase is still extremely problematic for me, compyfox and many others. if that changes i will be very happy and loyal to steinberg as i was at cubase 6.

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