NEW Studio One v3 updates incoming.

[EnGee]

I don't want to complain really. Not about this update or future update (free or not). The main thing for me was to know what will be the direction of S1 development.

I hoped to go the Cubase direction with many enhanced composition tools, but unfortunately for me, it is not. It is going the Pro Tools / Studio mixing/mastering direction which to be honest, is very logical because PreSonus produces hardware especially for mixing and traditional recording. Maybe not in the lead among other studio hardware companies, but they are hardware company before anything else.

So, the target audience is those who are related to audio recording/mixing/mastering crowd. I'm not among them, so I switched to another DAW which is going the way I'm progressing in (midi editing, sound design and arranging/composing workflow). Even Reaper is going my way! So, the question "Are you gonna go my way?" if not , then Goodbye

[bungle]

Presonus co-developed ARA and now it's being used by Cakewalk and Tracktion. What precedent makes you think they'll keep Mix Engine FX to themselves?

Because when ARA was announced they said it would be open to other developers, this time they didn't.
What precedent makes you think they wouldn't say from the start it was going to be open ?

ARA was co developed with a plugin company that wanted more people using its plugins and could not care less what host they used.

[bungle]

The point of this new feature is to generate more money for development anyway, without interrupting your user experience and workflow.

Not entirely sure i have ever come across a big company that ever worked like that, are you actually suggesting that rather than a set budget for development, that Presonus have stated that the money from sales of mix fx addons will directly go back in to development of Studio One ?
This would be unprecedented and should be applauded.

[SLiC]

I think whatever anyone thinks about any of the individual updates amongst the 50 free updates and workflow improvements, Presonus should be applauded for making this a free point update, one of the reasons I sold Cubase was the paid .5 updates (which contained far less than this update) but became nessesery to get bug fixes.

We need to applaude the good guys (and I include BITWiG and Reaper in this) so others follow suit. Other developers are probably looking at the criticism piled on a free update and thinking 'why bother'....

[bungle]

Free updates are always good, but the backlash here is not about free or paid, that is an argument being used now because solid points are being made about the whole over marketing thing going on at companies like Presonus (not just them by the way)
And for the record the "revolutionary" stuff in this update is eco system over hyped nonsense.
Most of the other updates that werent worthy of that stupid marketing rubbish are very very good.
For instance the automation, while not having a clip system, the actual editing doesn't feel like i am pushing a knife in to my brain everytime i use it.
VCA just works as it should.
Comping, not strictly anything special again just works as it should.
Smart arrow, again nothing special just feels like a bug fix rather than a feature (should have been like this in v1)

All of that stuff is more useful and valuable to an end user than any built in not as good as Strip (sk note)
However, the built in so and so is way more valuable to the developer in terms of on going sales to already paid up customers.

It is sad times when usability updates are overshadowed by catalogues and sales rooms.

[Skorpius]

And one other thing (because I'm in THAT mood again ) I don't understand why people think the gui is so bad. People constantly complained about it before the 3 update and they changed it. And though I don't care for the overly dark thing....you can change it

This is not quite precise. Before the update to V3, some people said they disliked the grey GUI. Most either liked it, or at least tolerated it. However, instead of making concessions to the users that did like the old GUI, they created _ what I and others consider as _ the ugliest GUI ever for a DAW.

Had they implemented the possibility of skins and integrated the old grey GUI as an optional skin for version 3, one would have had the possibility to roll back to the old GUI. Unfortunately, they didn't... Now all you can do in version 3 is mess around with some pale, ugly colors... without really changing anything about the overall GUI design.

[LFO8]

And one other thing (because I'm in THAT mood again ) I don't understand why people think the gui is so bad. People constantly complained about it before the 3 update and they changed it. And though I don't care for the overly dark thing....you can change it

This is not quite precise. Before the update to V3, some people said they disliked the grey GUI. Most either liked it, or at least tolerated it. However, instead of making concessions to the users that did like the old GUI, they created _ what I and others consider as _ the ugliest GUI ever for a DAW.

Had they implemented the possibility of skins and integrated the old grey GUI as an optional skin for version 3, one would have had the possibility to roll back to the old GUI. Unfortunately, they didn't... Now all you can do in version 3 is mess around with some pale, ugly colors... without really changing anything about the overall GUI design.

There is something to be said for this for sure. I also wish the GUI was customisable beyond simple color grading.

[aMUSEd]

I much prefer the new gui

[SLiC]

http://www.studio-one.expert/studio-one ... dio-one-32

Nice short video just showing the audio editing workflow improvements.

Have to say the VCA implementation is very easy to use, good job on that.

Also a good 1 hour video on Groove 3 showing all the 3.2 updates- shows what a big update it is what you8 get a full tuition video on the changes!! (note- its not free!)


Studio One 3.2 Update Explained

Console Shaper (06:31) - Studio One 3.2 lets you replace the built-in mix engine with plug-in mix engines. Console Shaper, modeled after analog consoles, is the first such plug-in.

VCA Faders (04:48) - Now you can apply VCA Faders to your mix channels. This video covers ways to set them up and how to use them along with Folder Tracks.

VCA Folder Tracks (02:58) - Create a VCA Fader for all tracks within a folder track.

Tab-to-Transient (01:53) - Tab-to-transient modifiers have been extended allowing you navigate not just forward but backward by transients.

Smart Arrow Tool (03:27) - The arrow tool gets smarter than ever allowing you select ranges in the upper third of events.

QuickZoom Tool (02:29) - A new keyboard shortcut enables a new multilevel zoom tool that allows you to quickly zoom in for detailed edits then step back out with a simple click.

Automation Bracket Tool (03:07) - Adjust automation offsets in a new fast and efficient way with the awesome new bracket tool.

Transform Range (02:30) - Building on the new workflow efficiency improvements, we now have an immediate way to invoke the brilliant automation transform.

Tracks Console Sync (03:54) - I demonstrate the new options for keeping tracks in perfect sync with the channels in the console.

Transport Options (04:03) - The new consolidated transport menu includes two new important options the Play Start Marker and Loop Follows selections.

Select to Start or End (01:47) - There is now a fast way to select every event after or before the current selection.

Instrument Part to Audio Event (03:14) - It is drag-and-drop simple to create an audio event from any instrument part.

Drag to Move FX (01:52) - Learn how to move plugins from one channel to another with a simple drag action.

Open Output FX (02:20) - Learn a simple shortcut to open he channel editor for quick access to the Main Out plugins.

Appearance Tweaks (02:02) - Learn about the subtle changes to the Appearance options that improve the overall UI experience.

Comping Improvements (09:24) - Numerous tweaks and shortcuts have been added to enhance comping speed and allow different working styles.

[BojanKerkez]

The only new "feature" I cared about - for them to finally fix the mixer resize bug (F2-F2-F3 chain of key commands will stretch the faders when the mixer is in large view) - hasn't been fixed, so I was rather disappointed yesterday. But I've tried this new Console Shaper today in an existing project by routing all mixer channels to a new bus. I cranked the drive to about 10db, set noise to 24, crosstalk to 44%, and, regardless of how it is being done and the obvious Presonus' ploy to sell overpriced proprietary plugins, I have to admit I really like what it's doing to the sound. And for the necessary turning down of FX channels' volumes, a VCA fader came in very handy.
But, with a little bit of adjusting of muscle memory, I think the new behaviours of the range tool will actually be the most important improvement of this update. I can see already how it will speed things up for me, or better say, reduce unnecessary mouse dragging and additional key commands. I just wish the single click to set the cursor worked in empty space as well, cause I always found the "Locate when clicked in empty space" option to be somewhat sluggish.
One thing I couldn't figure out was how to use the new quick zoom features, but the way S1 handled zooming before always served me well and was far superior to the zooming in my previous DAW (Live 9), so I don't really care about that.
What I do care about is the fixing of that mixer bug, the refinement of the new features introduced in v3 that feel unfinished (browser, note fx, macro controls), and most of all performance improvements, particularly in Windows 10, cause in my experience S1 v3 performed better in Windows 7. I could just use it with lower buffer settings than I do in Win10. And I don't think it's about the soundcard's driver, cause that other DAW I have (left) installed performs exactly the same as it did on Win7. And it's the same with Bitwig 8-track.
But I won't be holding my breath, cause I suspect they're not really able to make it more CPU efficient. What I suspect is that I will have to upgrade from the amazing i5 2500k eventually. I just can't afford it now...
And yes, glad that there was no mention of that Landr nonsense and that they will take into consideration all the negativity that rumour/prediction incited.

[trimph1]

I like the features.

I don't like the hype. Stick with the features and functions and forget the hype.

[SLiC]

I like the features.

I don't like the hype. Stick with the features and functions and forget the hype.

Presonus posted one 6 second video for a free update on their own website. The rest of the hype is down to forums!

[bungle]

I am pretty sure they did a very long live stream, preceeded by a continual email reminder campaign combined with their shil..sorry fans hitting various forums to bump threads hahaha
They are revolutionising hype at Presonus haha

[kmonkey]

Finally tried demo.

On a quick run - some nice features. No exactly as my Cubase (can't compare it to Ableton really) but Console FX to my ear is doing and sounding something much better then my VCC. Just imho.

[SLiC]

I am pretty sure they did a very long live stream, preceeded by a continual email reminder campaign combined with their shil..sorry fans hitting various forums to bump threads hahaha
They are revolutionising hype at Presonus haha

Seriously- you had to 'log in' to see the live stream and you have to subscribe to get the emails, oh, and if you hadn't noticed, this is the Studio One 3 update thread, the update is released, we are discussing it! Go troll another thread and learn to spell preceded!