Your opinion about Zebra 2

[martinjuenke]

Can you imagine if you really liked the Timbrewolf...

No, clearly no !!!

[leeleema]

Just an observation about u-he, I think there are good reasons that company are so well respected. It's just an absolutely solid company with a boss who built it from the ground up who knows what he is talking about, shares what he knows on forums like this, to the extent he can, always in a professional manner, and who doesn't constantly release the next big shiny thing for the sake of it. Their releases from 5+ years ago are still some of the best products in their respective categories so resources are put into keeping those products stable and up to date. In Urs, there is a goddamn proper leader. I bet he is a hard taskmaster on the inside, btw, a bit like Kier Starmer, but hopefully fair as well as hard. I'm not a u-he fanboy by the way, just an outsider, looking in

[v1o]

Honestly I think you're more definitely more likely to be a nutcase if you enjoy things that are reviled by the general population.

this is where it all falls apart. are you saying that an unpopular synth can't, used by someone who actually likes it, have value? that's like saying that any song that sits just below the charts is trash.

any tool, in the right hands, can have value.

I'm sure there is value in most tools but it's not always positive. I'd argue that a good synth is unlikely to be disliked by the majority of users. Generally when a synth is unpopular there are rational reasons for it. Usually its crappy ie poorly designed, buggy or has poor sound quality. I would question anyone's motivations if they found value in such a bad tool, given that they'd likely have to work twice as hard to get meaningful results out of it .

[fisherKing]

I'm sure there is value in most tools but it's not always positive. I'd argue that a good synth is unlikely to be disliked by the majority of users. Generally when a synth is unpopular there are rational reasons for it. Usually its crappy ie poorly designed, buggy or has poor sound quality. I would question anyone's motivations if they found value in such a bad tool, given that they'd likely have to work twice as hard to get meaningful results out of it .

synths, by definition, are programmable, changeable, malleable. if someone takes an unpopular synth and makes great music, that's all that should matter; and, in that case, it has more value than what someone with half the talent does with a popular synth.

there are so many variables, it is (i think, anyway) a shame to rule out any possibility; that's the great thing about music (and art in general).

[The Nerdy Music Guy]

Some wicked frequency shifted acid

https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... -1-x-zebra

[trackbout]

Zebra is infinite.

What else has the range to do this:


...and also do this:


...aaaaaaand also do this:

[recursive one]

Some wicked frequency shifted acid

https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... -1-x-zebra

Sounds cool

In my view Zebra's stronged point always was the mellow and nuanced atmospheric or semi-realistic sounds (which I can appreciate but don't need much for my own music) but your acid example was nice.

I'll probably give myself a challenge of trying to incorporate some Zebra into my music. The other day I updated my copy and loaded it again, first time in two years I think. There are at least some nice pads and atmospheres in there, very cool presets worthy of reverse-engineering.

[The Nerdy Music Guy]

Some wicked frequency shifted acid

https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... -1-x-zebra

Sounds cool

In my view Zebra's stronged point always was the mellow and nuanced atmospheric or semi-realistic sounds (which I can appreciate but don't need much for my own music) but your acid example was nice.

I'll probably give myself a challenge of trying to incorporate some Zebra into my music. The other day I updated my copy and loaded it again, first time in two years I think. There are at least some nice pads and atmospheres in there, very cool presets worthy of reverse-engineering.

Absolutely! Zebra is very good at evolving atmospheres and pads with a strange twist. It probably does those better than any other synth, in my opinion. Almost every time I want to make some more "normal" sounds, I end up in strange soundtrack land anyway

I mean, you can probably push it to do more modern EDMish sounds, but there are synths that are just much better suited for that task, in my opinion.
However, just subtly sprinkling in some more atmospheric sounds in the background can probably even benefit those genres, I imagine.

Anyway, it can do cheese trance

https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... -1-x-zebra

[recursive one]

I mean, you can probably push it to do more modern EDMish sounds, but there are synths that are just much better suited for that task, in my opinion.
However, just subtly sprinkling in some more atmospheric sounds in the background can probably even benefit those genres, I imagine.

Agree on that. I have a trusted set of synths that I use for leads, acids and such, but there's always a room for more subtle backround sounds to contrast them. So far I was mostly using Absynth and Dune for that, will try Zebra.

Anyway, it can do cheese trance
https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... -1-x-zebra

I love cheesy trance

Cool melody and I like the filter action here.

[Barriott]

It's very good. Really enjoy using it to make ambient sounds with a tone of echo and reverb. A joy to listen too

[PieBerger]

In my view Zebra's stronged point always was the mellow and nuanced atmospheric or semi-realistic sounds (which I can appreciate but don't need much for my own music) but your acid example was nice.

ZebraHZ makes a lovely psy bass with the Diva filters and keytrackable EQ bands (the latter also available in vanilla Zebra)

[recursive one]

In my view Zebra's stronged point always was the mellow and nuanced atmospheric or semi-realistic sounds (which I can appreciate but don't need much for my own music) but your acid example was nice.

ZebraHZ makes a lovely psy bass with the Diva filters and keytrackable EQ bands (the latter also available in vanilla Zebra)

Cool, good to know. I don't plan buying Zebra HZ any time soon though.

My go-to for the psybass is Sylenth, but I was getting good results with Hive lately.

[gentleclockdivider]

Diva filters bring zebra on a whole new level

[chk071]

Anyway, it can do cheese trance

https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... -1-x-zebra

See that's the reason why I dislike such synths for such sounds... the envelopes sound like paper when you close them (try Spire or Sylenth1 in contrast... lots of punch and pound to them when you use fast filter decay), and the filter resonance just adds that unpleasant stuff on top. Such supersaw/pluck sounds just sound lame on some synths.

There's a reason why everyone uses the "usual suspects" for such sounds. Even Hive, which is actually dedicated to such sounds, is just pale in comparison. IMO, u-he synths have other qualities, not necessarily "that" EDM sound.

[PieBerger]

In my view Zebra's stronged point always was the mellow and nuanced atmospheric or semi-realistic sounds (which I can appreciate but don't need much for my own music) but your acid example was nice.

ZebraHZ makes a lovely psy bass with the Diva filters and keytrackable EQ bands (the latter also available in vanilla Zebra)

Cool, good to know. I don't plan buying Zebra HZ any time soon though.

My go-to for the psybass is Sylenth, but I was getting good results with Hive lately.

My goto is ANA2; I like the variety and character of saw waveforms, filters and the readily accessible curve parameter on the nicely snappy envelopes. I can make a bass that sounds nice on its own with Hive, but they just always got lost in the mix for some reason