Roland Cloud

[fmr]

Yep it uses the zencore TVF filter ( not vcf ) which has a max freq of 11khz .
The same filter is used in their cloud srx series , xv5080 , integra 7 (pcm synth engine )
This filter has been recycled to death
The og jd800-990 filter maxed out at12 khz and is considered to be the best digital filter roland has ever created .
Not including the legendary filter in this release is just stupid ,a shameles cash grab .

Yeah….without the JD’s legendary filter the software version is a fake JD-800.

The original JD-800 did not have a VCF either, just to be clear.

No, it was a digital filter. But it was reportedly better than the one in the current software version.

[Examigan]

Eric Persing Special Bank

http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/roland_jd-80 ... dbanks.htm

Unless I am missing something there, I only see one there that can be downloaded: Internal Preloaded factory soundbank.

[OrionAlpha101]

I just want to show how many Banks are Produced in the past.

[Caine123]

Did anyone could import banks so far? Convert sysex to bin? Is there a collection maybe?

I wanted to buy don solaris patches but i think these are sysex only? And i dunno overall if jd990 patches work on jd800?

[Arashi]

No, it was a digital filter. But it was reportedly better than the one in the current software version.

Has anyone actually provided any evidence to support that claim? Not saying it isn’t true, but so far I haven’t seen any proof.

[fmr]

No, it was a digital filter. But it was reportedly better than the one in the current software version.

Has anyone actually provided any evidence to support that claim? Not saying it isn’t true, but so far I haven’t seen any proof.

It's just a matter of compare the sounds between the hardware and the software, as was already done from recordings, and compare the sounds with the model included in Zenology. What part of this is hard to understand for you?

Roland is doing a pretty lame job with the Cloud for more than a year now.

[PAK]

Unless I am missing something there, I only see one there that can be downloaded: Internal Preloaded factory soundbank.

You're missing something. At the bottom there's an "All the web" link, which is a collection of free patches for the JD800, along with the 100 or so commercial patch collections listed there.

Not that it'll do you any good since Roland didn't provide a way to import them.

[Examigan]

Thanks. Now if there was a converter to get them into the bin format...or Roland could add syx import.

[Arashi]

It's just a matter of compare the sounds between the hardware and the software, as was already done from recordings, and compare the sounds with the model included in Zenology. What part of this is hard to understand for you?

I don't own the hardware, obviously, and was asking if anyone else had already done the comparison. If so, maybe you could share a link or something. If not, then it's just an unverified claim.

[qube123]

Quite a lot of comparison vids on YT

[Arashi]

Quite a lot of comparison vids on YT

I've seen that guy's videos, but he's just comparing presets without doing any tweaking, and doesn't do a deep dive into the authenticity of the filter specifically.

[Examigan]

I just noticed the button on the JD-800 for renaming a patch is spelled "Renane". It's a small thing but I thought it was a bit ironic as they will have to rename it.

rename.jpg

[vertibration]

lol

[Chrisk-K]

No, it was a digital filter. But it was reportedly better than the one in the current software version.

Has anyone actually provided any evidence to support that claim? Not saying it isn’t true, but so far I haven’t seen any proof.

You will hear the difference only in presets that heavily use filters. For example, compare "Classic Sweeper" preset (which relies on resonant HP filter sweeps) between the original (check Synthmania's video, for example) and the new JD-800. The difference is like night and day. Compared to the filter sweeps on the original hardware version, those on the software version sound pretty lame.

[PAK]

Has anyone actually provided any evidence to support that claim? Not saying it isn’t true, but so far I haven’t seen any proof.

You will hear the difference only in presets that heavily use filters. For example, compare "Classic Sweeper" preset (which relies on resonant HP filter sweeps) between the original (check Synthmania's video, for example) and the new JD-800. The difference is like night and day. Compared to the filter sweeps on the original hardware version, those on the software version sound pretty lame.

Yeah, but Arashi is still correct about having a specific test. Not least because there doesn't seem to be anything readily available and the original claims all appear to originate from a single person. Whilst the claims tend to "tie in" with overall impressions, it's also a synth with EQ, spectrum, and enhancer functions. IE It requires a specific test.

Pre-recorded sequences aren't ideal either, not least because there'll often be differences in even the basic tone quality due to being recorded via the analogue domain (unless you adjust for it when recording you'll often have to add compression to a plugin just to start out with equivalent level perception, much less anything else.)