You are quoting me from a discussion I was having with a person with better arguments than you. This discussion is done and you won't bring me back on it with your childish cursing.Teksonik wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:28 pmSo you don't think anyone who has given any money to any developer has a right to complain when that developer doesn't handle his business correctly?Jac459 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:28 am I am actually a pro user...
But when I bought the pro, knowing the history of the synth, I took it as a donation.
Not an entitlement to complain...
Clearly this synth is built with open source in mind... 80 USD is a way to support. Nothing else.
But you think you have the right to complain incessantly here because you don't grasp the business-customer relationship or are just being blindly sycophantic ?
Talk about entitlement....![]()
At any rate, I feel like I'm communicating with a brick wall. The only difference being is a brick wall at least serves some purpose. You have a nice day now and wipe that brown stuff off your nose.....![]()
Vital - Released
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- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2489 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Sounds like they made one or more mistakes then, in going into business.martinjuenke wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:11 pm Sometimes developers close shop because of bitching customers.
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
I meant the "pro" tier of the vital offer.
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- 873 posts since 9 Jun, 2020
To be honest the amount of whining is making me wonder if the reason he hasn’t done much in the last few months is because he’s realised the user base is so toxic he doesn’t want anything to do with them.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
If that's the case, then he should really consider doing what he's doing, if he's so unprofessional about the people who put food on his table.Double Tap wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:37 pm To be honest the amount of whining is making me wonder if the reason he hasn’t done much in the last few months is because he’s realised the user base is so toxic he doesn’t want anything to do with them.
Sorry, but, you surely shouldn't let your emotions take over, when you sell a product.
That said, this is, of course, pure speculation, and, I don't think that that's the reason why he decided to take a step back from communicating. Frankly, it's a bit paradox, as this kind of speculation can also be considered pretty toxic, when you just make up reasons for subjectively perceived stuff.
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- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
The fun part is that these bitching consumers are complaining because of their own unrealistic expectations.martinjuenke wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:11 pm Sometimes developers close shop because of bitching customers.
And by bitching this way, they are maximizing their chances to have their expectations broken and the developer to send everything to hell and go use this talent on more rewarding markets.
That's a kind of fun Self-fulfilling prophecy.
- KVRAF
- 3643 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Maybe he just needs better Work - Life - Balance. 
You can be creative in any right place on Earth, and not only in the wealthiest cities. Bring the world feelings from everywhere, and not only feelings of capitalistic or jail environment.
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Well, everybody seems happy here, including him.
Except just a bunch of Karen making noise about unrealistic expectations. Nothing of interest.
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On a much more interesting note, Minimal Audio Current will be out the 8th of November !
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
When he later on has a burn-out like the Tone2 guy all these Karens will be full of sympathy and sending him best wishes. First kill him, then cry for him.
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- KVRAF
- 3643 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Nobody is happy in here.
We are making music to fill the emptiness and sorrow in our tormented souls.
You can be creative in any right place on Earth, and not only in the wealthiest cities. Bring the world feelings from everywhere, and not only feelings of capitalistic or jail environment.
― Aleksey Vaneev
https://linuxdaw.org
― Aleksey Vaneev
https://linuxdaw.org
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
People here are unhappy about people not being happy! WOW 
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- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
When you're unhappy you'll make better music!
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
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https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Only once because you'll be happy about your music...
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