Now Hive is here, is it RIP Sylenth?

[fluffy_little_something]

IMO the bass is pretty excessive on some of today's plugins anyway tbh... it's like you go to a club, or to the cinema. Everywhere the bass is turned up to max. It's pretty inflationary.

Yes, there is a bass epidemic in modern music

He didn't say there was a bass epidemic in modern music, so why are you agreeing with something he didn't say? He claimed that some of today's plugins have "excessive bass". This isn't remotely true.

Who are you, the forum police?

Actually, the excessive bass and bass drums in some modern music would not be possible if the gear did not provide them. One doesn't need a subwoofer for reproducing a Jazz Bass, but lots of excessive HipHop sounds for instance are made with plugins.

[fluffy_little_something]

Sylenth1 was the sh*t back in 2009. Now there are synths that are miles ahead. S1 sounds dated to me, to the point where I'd rarely use it in a current project. I only keep it on the system, because my 5yo niece likes playing with it when she comes over.

More nonsense. Sylenth sounds great today, even though there are better synths out there. Can you show us some of these 'dated' sounds? Surely anything made before December 2014 is 'dated' as well, and should be thrown in the trashcan.

I agree, it still sounds great, I like how direct it is, every control has a real impact. I wish it did not have the display, that is the only thing that doesn't feel like solid hardware.
It is not as complex as some recent synths of course, but the sounds it can make, sound great. And it is flexible enough for me, never cared for the latest or extreme stuff.
I am happy Sylenth does not have 0df filters and such modern things, they would only overwhelm my computer without any real advantages.

With synths there is the same kind of business- rather then necessity-driven evolution as with cell phones. In order to sell, developers come up with ever more bells and whistles, but many people don't need them, and the sound quality as such hardly gets better. Like with cell phones, where the original purpose of the phone probably was as good as it gets years ago. A 500-dollar iPhone doesn't sound better than my ancient primitive Samsung, which doesn't even have a cam etc., but which does what it is supposed to do and whose battery charge lasts for a week.

[do_androids_dream]

Sylenth1 was the sh*t back in 2009. Now there are synths that are miles ahead. S1 sounds dated to me, to the point where I'd rarely use it in a current project. I only keep it on the system, because my 5yo niece likes playing with it when she comes over.

It sounds dated if you use the flavour of the month preset that everyone was using at a certain time. If you use it as a synthesiser to make interesting sounds then it will never be dated. It's a tool to make sounds at the end of the day - whether it sounds dated is totally in the hands of the user.

[xamido]

How does a synth sound dated if you can program your own sound with it?

[ariston]

I think he meant to say "it looks dated". We all know that a synth's sound is primarily based on how it looks.

[do_androids_dream]

I think he meant to say "it looks dated". We all know that a synth's sound is primarily based on how it looks.

[fluffy_little_something]

That's why Hive sounds so modern

[izonin]

That's just the nature of electronic music. It's closely tied to technology. You always need the latest and greatest.

[Sendy]

This idea of "modern" music is closely tied to consumerism. Get the latest plugins, to get the latest sound, to show you make modern music. Only now you've made some music, it's all out of date, so everything starts again with the spending.

Luckily a lot of good art transcends time and place. The test of time. That's not to say there isn't a bit of a consumer inside me, who likes to get out at times . If anything can make me do that, it's music gear.

[do_androids_dream]

That's just the nature of electronic music. It's closely tied to technology. You always need the latest and greatest.

I think there's something at KVR that makes people believe this. The constant comparison threads are pretty unique here (as in I don't see this kind of aggressive competing over the sound of softsynths in any other forums much). I totally disagree though - you absolutely do not need the latest and greatest. If you have money burning holes in your pockets and you personally get a kick out of having the latest and greatest then who am I to oppose that - but, no you don't need the latest and greatest to make electronic music.

[do_androids_dream]

This idea of "modern" music is closely tied to consumerism.

I think so too - also closely tied to ever shortening attention spans. People need to slooooow down, re-evaluate, re-appreciate...

[fluffy_little_something]

Was just recreating my electric piano patch from my old synth on Sylenth. It is not finished yet, but I already like the way it sounds. Still have to mess around with the phaser, don't really know how it works
If Sylenth sounds dated, I love dated

https://app.box.com/s/kzi6efppgw4hehrkymxz

[valerian_777]

The last time i plunged into Hive i found no Sylenth..

[Aiynzahev]

This idea of "modern" music is closely tied to consumerism.

I think so too - also closely tied to ever shortening attention spans. People need to slooooow down, re-evaluate, re-appreciate...

Many modern producers that I've seen stick with what works for them. Many don't update to the latest DAW version for example or use pretty old vst effects.

Some people are enthusiasts about the whole thing generally, music or not. I think they like to buy stuff because it's fun having new plugins and also there is a lot of genuinely interesting stuff coming out.

I don't think the consumerism is a result of modern music, just a wide modern market.

[trimph1]

Sylenth is dated

To people suffering from weary producers syndrome.

Actually, I don't get that line of thinking. Are we now thinking that softsynths have an expiry date? Or have we just become a bunch of jaded curmudgeons?