That is much more than a bugirvg wrote:It deleted the rest of my stuff, and I didn't use Command Center. I'm on Mac, and I used the individual installer for one of the packs, and specified the folder I wanted to install into on an external drive.My advice is do not use command center at all. Both z3ta and rp crash live instantly in 64 bit. Not a good way to start out new synth releases.
Cakewalk Rapture Pro Announced :)
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- KVRist
- 367 posts since 18 Dec, 2006
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- KVRist
- 367 posts since 18 Dec, 2006
I think the filters are great. Very smooth. The other dsp slots can add great bite, grittiness and dirt if desired.
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- KVRist
- 335 posts since 11 Feb, 2008 from The Mountains of VT
Yeah if you click on the arrow at the top of the Browser | Program Column you can sort by Most Used. I agree Favorites would be really nice to have. All of the browser info is stored as xml so you can go in and edit a program to have a load count of 10,000 or something super high if you want it to always appear at the top for sort Most Used.BERFAB wrote:Actually, the system automatically records and displays the number of times you open a preset. Obviously I haven't used it much yet, so I haven't really tested it, but this is actually a pretty clever system for automatically determining favorites. That is, assuming there's a way to rank the presets by number of clicks. I presume there is.ThomasHelzle wrote: The Browser still has no favourites system (5 star rating please)
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- KVRist
- 467 posts since 3 Jun, 2012
are there any chance to make the Preset Browser Window bigger ? the Gui are not resizabale
imo its to small hard to read and work with
imo its to small hard to read and work with
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 4 Apr, 2015
Well, I got it and just want to say something positive about the installation part on a Mac:
I had no previous Cakewalk products (only Z3TA on iOS, which is a good synth app).
Installed their control center app, downloaded, installed, was running with an instance loaded in Cubase in under 3-4 minutes from time of purchase. But I had no older content to take care of.
I am on a Mac and installer asked for folder to install into, I used the default, which is a new folder on my disk, therefore no problems, but I had made a backup of my preset folder before installing, just in case due to reports here.
So far no issues.
I looked into file system and Rapture installed where it was suppsed to and there was no trouble with already existent folders.
Now comes the difficult/ time consuming part, trying to make some useful sounds, really curious what Rapture can do here...
I had no previous Cakewalk products (only Z3TA on iOS, which is a good synth app).
Installed their control center app, downloaded, installed, was running with an instance loaded in Cubase in under 3-4 minutes from time of purchase. But I had no older content to take care of.
I am on a Mac and installer asked for folder to install into, I used the default, which is a new folder on my disk, therefore no problems, but I had made a backup of my preset folder before installing, just in case due to reports here.
So far no issues.
I looked into file system and Rapture installed where it was suppsed to and there was no trouble with already existent folders.
Now comes the difficult/ time consuming part, trying to make some useful sounds, really curious what Rapture can do here...
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- KVRist
- 493 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
Got serial yesterday, but didn't have time to set it up, so I just downloaded all the files.
Today, I've first tried installing it on Windows box - I can only describe it as painful.
Installing 12 packs, and all of them have absolutely no indication of the name of the pack being installed, during setup process. When you're distracted by 2 kids while installing this pile of shit, you end up not knowing which one you installed a minute ago. Good luck figuring out which one you have just installed, when installation succeeded. Won't even talk about joys of running an executable, that will unpack another executable and files, and this new executable will then copy them over (instead of just running a single executable that will unpack/copy files over immediately). These installers are work of a genius.
Took quite some time, but finally managed to install them all. Started up the thing just to realize that sound is being 'chopped off' randomly. Had no idea what was going on, restarted Studio One multiple times, and only after 4th or 5th restart did this pile of steaming shit actually pop up a window to tell me that I should register/authorize by using that command center crap and that I am running in a demo mode. I really can't think of a reason why the application wouldn't tell me this immediately, but would let me waste time first. Good engineering there. I wasn't able to find a way to input serial directly into RP, so I installed CC.
Took me a bit of time to figure out that I can't use email address as username in CC, while it works just fine when logging in to website. Brilliant. Consistency is important, obviously.
After overcoming that hurdle, I ended up with this horrible application that looks like it was written by me 20 years ago. Lots of red icons, without any explanation on why they are red or what that means. I mean, it's briefly mentioned in User Guide, and yeah, I don't see why anyone would prefer to be informed about this inside CC instead of having to run RP in order to load User Guide and find a line mentioning red icons. It only offered me to install RP and packs, even though I have already installed everything. At no point in time did it say what it is doing in regards to authorization, but I eventually got tired of trying to understand the abomination called "Control Center" and re-ran S1. When I opened up RP, it was authorized. Neither CC nor RP informed me when/how it was authorized, or anything else. Completely ridiculous.
Not to mention how happy I was to see CC "checking for updates" every time I would click on one of the products/packs. Hey genius, I've just clicked on that line 5 seconds ago, maybe you don't really need to check for updates again just yet? Sigh.
Next, I was to install the RP "for real" on wife's Mac.
I have no idea who was making CC for Mac, but it is beyond horrible. Ugly, hanging/freezing all the time, won't allow me to paste the password (wtf?), but I eventually managed to get to configuration screen and point out downloads directory to a directory where I placed all the files I've downloaded already.
Installation starts, and after many clicks and password inputs something started happening. And I mean it. Something.
It gives no indication on what it really is doing, except giving you a line at the bottom with "installing [name] 1/13" type of information. There was no useful progress meter, I had no idea whether it was actually using files I already downloaded or was downloading something by itself. It stayed for more than 30 minutes on 3/13 step, where I had no idea what it was doing and why it was hanging. I thought it was maybe downloading the files so that's why it was hanging.
Later on, I found out that it actually shows progress when it downloads files, since it decided to download 4 files (largest ones, of course) for some reason, even though they were already in the directory. I've compared them afterwards with my original files, and they were the same. Same MD5 fingerprint. Why it decided to download whatever it is that it downloaded is a mystery to me.
When it eventually finished, I ended up with 2 red icons in CC, for 2 packs. I have tried installing them from CC, twice, always remains red even though installation seemingly completed just fine. I have then installed them manually, twice (and installation was completed successfully both times too), and they still show as red - no matter what I do.
But the real joy was experienced when I started Live on this Mac, loaded RP and had it inform me that it is running in demo mode and that I should authorize it using CC application. The same application that I've been trying to use for past 2 hours and which is running in the background and which properly shows serial number and what not.
I can't wait for a post from Cakewalk informing customers how they had no idea about the issues and how they are shocked that their product could behave that way. Surely they had no idea that RP is broken as hell.
How a 'serious company' could release something like this is beyond me.
And yeah, I just love having to double-click on a patch name in order to have it loaded.
This was my experience, YMMV and all that.
P.S: So, just for the sake of it, I started CC on Windows again. I actually started it 3 minutes ago, but it is still "checking for updates" and hasn't loaded main screen yet. I am sure everything worked just fine on their Gigabit LAN, who would ever need to check performance of the application over crappier Internet link? Noone, obviously. No really, I am amazed.
P.P.S: Hahahaha, after it checked updates (and it was switching pack names at the bottom, so it was doing something), it informed me that it has no Internet connection available (which is incorrect). Clicking "Retry" made the application *restart* itself and start checking for updates all over again. It eventually finished a minute later, but holy f**k, this is amazing.
Today, I've first tried installing it on Windows box - I can only describe it as painful.
Installing 12 packs, and all of them have absolutely no indication of the name of the pack being installed, during setup process. When you're distracted by 2 kids while installing this pile of shit, you end up not knowing which one you installed a minute ago. Good luck figuring out which one you have just installed, when installation succeeded. Won't even talk about joys of running an executable, that will unpack another executable and files, and this new executable will then copy them over (instead of just running a single executable that will unpack/copy files over immediately). These installers are work of a genius.
Took quite some time, but finally managed to install them all. Started up the thing just to realize that sound is being 'chopped off' randomly. Had no idea what was going on, restarted Studio One multiple times, and only after 4th or 5th restart did this pile of steaming shit actually pop up a window to tell me that I should register/authorize by using that command center crap and that I am running in a demo mode. I really can't think of a reason why the application wouldn't tell me this immediately, but would let me waste time first. Good engineering there. I wasn't able to find a way to input serial directly into RP, so I installed CC.
Took me a bit of time to figure out that I can't use email address as username in CC, while it works just fine when logging in to website. Brilliant. Consistency is important, obviously.
After overcoming that hurdle, I ended up with this horrible application that looks like it was written by me 20 years ago. Lots of red icons, without any explanation on why they are red or what that means. I mean, it's briefly mentioned in User Guide, and yeah, I don't see why anyone would prefer to be informed about this inside CC instead of having to run RP in order to load User Guide and find a line mentioning red icons. It only offered me to install RP and packs, even though I have already installed everything. At no point in time did it say what it is doing in regards to authorization, but I eventually got tired of trying to understand the abomination called "Control Center" and re-ran S1. When I opened up RP, it was authorized. Neither CC nor RP informed me when/how it was authorized, or anything else. Completely ridiculous.
Not to mention how happy I was to see CC "checking for updates" every time I would click on one of the products/packs. Hey genius, I've just clicked on that line 5 seconds ago, maybe you don't really need to check for updates again just yet? Sigh.
Next, I was to install the RP "for real" on wife's Mac.
I have no idea who was making CC for Mac, but it is beyond horrible. Ugly, hanging/freezing all the time, won't allow me to paste the password (wtf?), but I eventually managed to get to configuration screen and point out downloads directory to a directory where I placed all the files I've downloaded already.
Installation starts, and after many clicks and password inputs something started happening. And I mean it. Something.
It gives no indication on what it really is doing, except giving you a line at the bottom with "installing [name] 1/13" type of information. There was no useful progress meter, I had no idea whether it was actually using files I already downloaded or was downloading something by itself. It stayed for more than 30 minutes on 3/13 step, where I had no idea what it was doing and why it was hanging. I thought it was maybe downloading the files so that's why it was hanging.
Later on, I found out that it actually shows progress when it downloads files, since it decided to download 4 files (largest ones, of course) for some reason, even though they were already in the directory. I've compared them afterwards with my original files, and they were the same. Same MD5 fingerprint. Why it decided to download whatever it is that it downloaded is a mystery to me.
When it eventually finished, I ended up with 2 red icons in CC, for 2 packs. I have tried installing them from CC, twice, always remains red even though installation seemingly completed just fine. I have then installed them manually, twice (and installation was completed successfully both times too), and they still show as red - no matter what I do.
But the real joy was experienced when I started Live on this Mac, loaded RP and had it inform me that it is running in demo mode and that I should authorize it using CC application. The same application that I've been trying to use for past 2 hours and which is running in the background and which properly shows serial number and what not.
I can't wait for a post from Cakewalk informing customers how they had no idea about the issues and how they are shocked that their product could behave that way. Surely they had no idea that RP is broken as hell.
How a 'serious company' could release something like this is beyond me.
And yeah, I just love having to double-click on a patch name in order to have it loaded.
This was my experience, YMMV and all that.
P.S: So, just for the sake of it, I started CC on Windows again. I actually started it 3 minutes ago, but it is still "checking for updates" and hasn't loaded main screen yet. I am sure everything worked just fine on their Gigabit LAN, who would ever need to check performance of the application over crappier Internet link? Noone, obviously. No really, I am amazed.
P.P.S: Hahahaha, after it checked updates (and it was switching pack names at the bottom, so it was doing something), it informed me that it has no Internet connection available (which is incorrect). Clicking "Retry" made the application *restart* itself and start checking for updates all over again. It eventually finished a minute later, but holy f**k, this is amazing.
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- KVRAF
- 6529 posts since 9 Dec, 2008 from Berlin
LOL
"Out beyond the ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I’ll meet you there." · Rumi
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- KVRAF
- 37379 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
OK I have pinned down the presets that aren't making a sound, it seems to be most of the Piscis Spectrum Pads, I guess this means the installer has failed to install certain wavefiles. I have tried running the installer manually and using the Command Centre and still no sounds but the Architecture waveforms are definitely in the multisamples folder so it must be something else that these particular presets are missing.
Just compared what I have in my Rapture 1 content folder to Rapture Pro and there is a huge discrepancy between things like sample pool, EG and SG folders, lots missing from the Rapture Pro folders.
Just compared what I have in my Rapture 1 content folder to Rapture Pro and there is a huge discrepancy between things like sample pool, EG and SG folders, lots missing from the Rapture Pro folders.
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- KVRAF
- 37379 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I can see what the problem is by comparing what is loaded in Rapture and Rapture Pro. For example for Adrastea pad Rapture is loading the Architecture multisample GSP086 (FM2 08 03 01.00).sfz. In rapture Pro those samples are failing to load and when I try to load them manually they are also refusing to load so I wonder now if they are corrupted, I will try copying over the old Rapture content.
Edit - yes the old sample loads, but the new one doesn't - and yet I just compared the files and they are identical in size.
Edit - yes the old sample loads, but the new one doesn't - and yet I just compared the files and they are identical in size.
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- KVRist
- 493 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
After restarting Mac, CC and Live multiple times, now I have something new to report.
RP is still running in Demo mode (and silence is inserted randomly) but serial number displayed in about box is now not the ...9999... one, but my actual serial number.
So, I seemingly have an authorized demo copy of Rapture Pro, haha.
What a pile of shit this is. I wasted a perfectly good evening on this.
There is no explanation on how to "authorize" Rapture Pro, in documentation. They say "If you have not authorized Rupture Pro in the Cakewalk Store (or on Steam), Rupture Pro will function in demo mode." And I can't figure out how the hell do I force this piece of crap to authorize, or prompt me for serial or anything. Nothing about authorization in my Cakewalk account (or "shop", as they say), nothing in CC, nothing in Rupture. They talk about serial number on pages 8 and 10, but seemingly they use voodoo magic since they don't explain what we can actually do with that number.
Anyone knows how to force the authorization?
RP is still running in Demo mode (and silence is inserted randomly) but serial number displayed in about box is now not the ...9999... one, but my actual serial number.
So, I seemingly have an authorized demo copy of Rapture Pro, haha.
What a pile of shit this is. I wasted a perfectly good evening on this.
There is no explanation on how to "authorize" Rapture Pro, in documentation. They say "If you have not authorized Rupture Pro in the Cakewalk Store (or on Steam), Rupture Pro will function in demo mode." And I can't figure out how the hell do I force this piece of crap to authorize, or prompt me for serial or anything. Nothing about authorization in my Cakewalk account (or "shop", as they say), nothing in CC, nothing in Rupture. They talk about serial number on pages 8 and 10, but seemingly they use voodoo magic since they don't explain what we can actually do with that number.
Anyone knows how to force the authorization?
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- KVRAF
- 37379 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
It just seems to need you to run the Command Centre app and log into your account, if it is already registered there it should also be authorised on your system automatically. The problem is if you can't get the Command Centre to run - took me 5 or so attempts to even get it to load without freezing or crashing, and even then it crashed another time while installing one of the packs, but I managed it in the end.midi sentinel wrote: There is no explanation on how to "authorize" Rapture Pro, in documentation. They say "If you have not authorized Rupture Pro in the Cakewalk Store (or on Steam), Rupture Pro will function in demo mode." And I can't figure out how the hell do I force this piece of crap to authorize, or prompt me for serial or anything. Nothing about authorization in my Cakewalk account (or "shop", as they say), nothing in CC, nothing in Rupture. They talk about serial number on pages 8 and 10, but seemingly they use voodoo magic since they don't explain what we can actually do with that number.
Anyone knows how to force the authorization?
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- KVRAF
- 8413 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
I was very close to buying rapture, but my internet connection crashed before i could actually check out. Judging by the state of the thread, I'm actually kind of glad I didn't jump on that.
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- KVRist
- 138 posts since 11 Apr, 2011 from Paris, France
According to CW support, the plug expects an authorization file that is not getting created by the installation process -- but only for some Mac users. I'm on a Mac Pro running 10.8.5.midi sentinel wrote:Anyone knows how to force the authorization?
Another anomaly: I've been trying this in Live, but just opened Cubase -- it didn't see the VST3 version, although it's installed.
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- KVRist
- 138 posts since 11 Apr, 2011 from Paris, France
There is some other bug afoot, as I can login to CC and see my valid s/n, which is the same as that on the website. But no authorization file is getting created, leaving the plug stuck in demo limbo...aMUSEd wrote:It just seems to need you to run the Command Centre app and log into your account, if it is already registered there it should also be authorised on your system automatically. The problem is if you can't get the Command Centre to run
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- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void
Sounds like a more suitable name for it.midi sentinel wrote:Rupture Pro
