Gforce Oberheim OB-X

[4damind]

I've also been noodling around with the OB-X to see if it makes sense for my music and how I get on with the programming (which was no problem). I can test it better when I hear it in the context of a short test song.... For some things I like Serum, Diva or Repro better.... but most of it is from the OB-X.

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[Uncle E]

Amazing what you guys have been able to create under this draconian system! I tried to put something together but the demo sent me to the gulags.

[4damind]

The new answer when people ask "what's the solution to prevent procrastination and get a song done faster?": Use the demo version of Gforce Plugins

[fisherKing]

The new answer when people ask "what's the solution to prevent procrastination and get a song done faster?": Use the demo version of Gforce Plugins

even faster: working between the noise blasts (from demos that introduce noise blasts).

[bmanic]

.. or the ones that have a drop out. Take it as a challenge.. fill the void.

[Frantz]

Most people like U-he's demo system. It's quite universally praised. Also FabFilter demo is very often praised (it is completely 100% fully functional for 14 days I believe).

I don't like the u-he system. I am sensitive to noise. I just close the plugin after a while rather than listening to noise bursts.

I like things like SonicCharge, D16, and Reaper where the limitations are very minor in the beginning.

Perhaps there should be a separate thread to discuss demo limitations?

[bmanic]

Most people like U-he's demo system. It's quite universally praised. Also FabFilter demo is very often praised (it is completely 100% fully functional for 14 days I believe).

I don't like the u-he system. I am sensitive to noise. I just close the plugin after a while rather than listening to noise bursts.

.. but they are NOT noise bursts, not even close. Are you sure you have _actually_ tried U-He demos?

And the plugins are fully working for a few minutes first, without any noise at all. In the case of Zebra, it's 15 minutes at a time without any weirdness. You can just remove the plugin and start over if the randomness or tiny amount of non-invasive noise bothers you.

I like things like SonicCharge, D16, and Reaper where the limitations are very minor in the beginning.

As for Reaper, it has literally no limitations at all except a tiny nag screen at startup. That is not a realistic protection scheme for most. I know a lot of people who consider Reaper "freeware" due to this.

SonicCharge has a fully functional demo for 3 weeks which is extremely generous, and I just checked FabFilter policy, it's 30 days fully functional! So yeah, no wonder people like that one.

[Frantz]

.. but they are NOT noise bursts, not even close. Are you sure you have _actually_ tried U-He demos?

Yes, I have actually tried many u-he demos and own Diva, Repro, Hive, and Carbon Copy.

To me the vinyl-like static sound is annoying. I gave up on Satin and more recently Filterscape specifically because of this "tiny amount of non-invasive noise."

[bmanic]

Weird, last time I checked a U-He plugin I didn't own, it really was extremely low in volume. Wouldn't call that a "noise burst" at all. Noise burst to me sounds like actual noise that suddenly bursts out, usually louder than the actual audio you are working with, which is unfortunately a protection scheme some dumb developers still use.

[Frantz]

Weird, last time I checked a U-He plugin I didn't own, it really was extremely low in volume. Wouldn't call that a "noise burst" at all. Noise burst to me sounds like actual noise that suddenly bursts out, usually louder than the actual audio you are working with, which is unfortunately a protection scheme some dumb developers still use.

"Noise burst" is probably the wrong description. In any case, I have a sensitivity to noise and whatever you want to call u-he's thing, it irritates me a lot. I need to make a decision quickly because I can tolerate it for only a couple of minutes. Maybe it's a good thing? These demo limitations save me money by preventing me from buying non-essential plugins.

[Odd Fella]

.. but they are NOT noise bursts, not even close. Are you sure you have _actually_ tried U-He demos?

Yes, I have actually tried many u-he demos and own Diva, Repro, Hive, and Carbon Copy.

To me the vinyl-like static sound is annoying. I gave up on Satin and more recently Filterscape specifically because of this "tiny amount of non-invasive noise."

I agree, rather annoying sound.
As if the point in demo noise were to piss the potential customer off, rather than merely preventing the use of the demo version in a production.

[4damind]

Yes, these demo restrictions are quite an annoying thing! Apparently, some developers think that if users are particularly annoyed, they will buy the plugins faster. I can't confirm this for myself, I'm relatively quick to uninstall them.
U-He is in the middle of the "demo annoying scale". I found the detuning of the tones (Zebra?) very bad, I never bought Zebra either and then uninstalled the demo. With some plug-ins the noise gets louder and louder after a while, I also find that pretty bad (no matter if pink or white noise).

And GForce with the 6h demo... well, that's somewhere pretty far up the scale I sometimes wonder what kind of ideas some developers come up with to make it particularly difficult for users to want to buy their product

[bmanic]

Weird, last time I checked a U-He plugin I didn't own, it really was extremely low in volume. Wouldn't call that a "noise burst" at all. Noise burst to me sounds like actual noise that suddenly bursts out, usually louder than the actual audio you are working with, which is unfortunately a protection scheme some dumb developers still use.

"Noise burst" is probably the wrong description. In any case, I have a sensitivity to noise and whatever you want to call u-he's thing, it irritates me a lot. I need to make a decision quickly because I can tolerate it for only a couple of minutes. Maybe it's a good thing? These demo limitations save me money by preventing me from buying non-essential plugins.

I totally understand and I do agree with you. Especially for FX plugins, when you want to perhaps test multiple effects in a project and then they all start having random noise all over the place, makes it virtually impossible to test. But in terms of noise annoyance, U-He is pretty low on that list compared to other invasive noise implementations.

And GForce with the 6h demo... well, that's somewhere pretty far up the scale I sometimes wonder what kind of ideas some developers come up with to make it particularly difficult for users to want to buy their product

Indeed. I always wonder what kind of metric they use for the demo restriction. I always think about FabFilter. They are, as far as I know, doing absolutely great and have no problems selling their plugins. Yet they offer a fully functional 30 day demo.. and get a nice easy to use demo-reset code if you send them an email and want to demo an old product again. They don't seem to have any issues selling their software. So what is the point of really weird and restricted demo policies? Has anybody actually tried to investigate this? I mean, not just with audio software but software in general.

[Uncle E]

To me the vinyl-like static sound is annoying. I gave up on Satin and more recently Filterscape specifically because of this "tiny amount of non-invasive noise."

Yes, vinyl-like. LoFi vibes. Some of you think I'm joking...

[revvy]

Thank god that even though this looks a bit interesting, I’ve got more than enough synths so don’t need to brave the cruel demo.