64bit doubles is "the way to go" now? If so, that's too bad imho. But I guess the market will go there anyway.Aleksey Vaneev wrote:Still not useful. We can't vectorize 4 doubles on current processors - we can only vectorize 2 and that limits its applications to 2 channel audio only. If you think about graphics card computing, they do not require interleaved data - it can even hurt performance AFAIK.stefancrs wrote:For certain scenarios it makes perfect sense to have them interleaved from a performance point of view (vectorized code and whatnot).
Don't know if anyone noticed... VST3
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- KVRAF
- 4737 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
Stefan H Singer
https://dropshotaudio.com/
https://dropshotaudio.com/
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- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
Both 32-bit floats and 64-bit doubles can be supported, but IMO 32-bit floats are fading away: having 64-bit internal precision in plug-in is not a marketing advantage anymore because almost every developer uses 64-bit doubles internally. Beside that quad cores and faster RAM allow to run everything in double precision.stefancrs wrote:64bit doubles is "the way to go" now? If so, that's too bad imho. But I guess the market will go there anyway.
Anyway, small API details like this should undergo voting after discussion that mentions all the pros and cons takes place.
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- KVRAF
- 4737 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
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- KVRAF
- 1940 posts since 16 Aug, 2004 from Vienna, Austria
That has always been a Cubase deficiency and has nothing at all to do with VST3.jones-y wrote:So when are we gonna see plugin samplers that can actually sample???Steiny wrote:Routing Possibilities
Plug-ins can be connected to the host environment in many different ways: Future VST3 Instruments can have audio inputs.
The VST 2 specification does not state that a VSTi can't have audio inputs. Nowhere. My hosts have supported this all the time.
"Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk." 
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- KVRian
- 679 posts since 6 Aug, 2004 from Cyberspace
Everyone is surrounding the dance floor but no one wants to go on first. Gotta love humans 
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning,
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning,
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
If that's some sarcasm towards 'new spec' endeavor, you've missed something.lowkey wrote:Everyone is surrounding the dance floor but no one wants to go on first. Gotta love humans
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- u-he
- 30186 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Wasn't interleaved banned after AU V1.0 was deprecated and stroustrupped into AU2.0?Aleksey Vaneev wrote:No, it's not. As for me, I would have to de-interleave and re-interleave the stream. (I do that already if host supplies such data to an AudioUnit).
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- KVRian
- 515 posts since 18 Jan, 2004 from PHX AZ
I'd be more than happy to go first. Unfortunately, the creators of the SDK didn't see fit to actually give us a version that worked. Don't know if you've been paying attention or not, but this kit is hopelessly f**ked. If I had my druthers, we'd start releasing VST3 versions of our entire product line next week. But that simply ain't gonna be happening at this point.
Chris Randall
Plug-ins: http://www.audiodamage.com
Blog: http://www.analogindustries.com
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Plug-ins: http://www.audiodamage.com
Blog: http://www.analogindustries.com
Music: http://chrisrandall.bandcamp.com/
More Music: http://rtsixy.bandcamp.com/
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- KVRist
- 32 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
IM juat a user but damn, If I won the lotto, I'd pay you guys to come up with a new open platform free of steinsucks rule. I would pay a mil a year.
Seriously though, How feasible is a new platform that lets say could have a site devoted to news and updates and even tutorials about the development of said plugin standard? So that new people could come in and learn the dsp programming and even talk to some of the experienced coders to get real life help and not a shit arsed pdf? Plus it could also feature full page ad's in all the trades to help sell the idea as a viable alternative to the old standard. Something like IEEE but for audio/midi. And please replace midi! Shits older then Jesus' shoes!
Seriously though, How feasible is a new platform that lets say could have a site devoted to news and updates and even tutorials about the development of said plugin standard? So that new people could come in and learn the dsp programming and even talk to some of the experienced coders to get real life help and not a shit arsed pdf? Plus it could also feature full page ad's in all the trades to help sell the idea as a viable alternative to the old standard. Something like IEEE but for audio/midi. And please replace midi! Shits older then Jesus' shoes!
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- KVRian
- 679 posts since 6 Aug, 2004 from Cyberspace
No sarcasm or insult intendedAleksey Vaneev wrote:If that's some sarcasm towards 'new spec' endeavor, you've missed something.lowkey wrote:Everyone is surrounding the dance floor but no one wants to go on first. Gotta love humans
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning,
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning,
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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- KVRist
- 94 posts since 15 Jun, 2004 from Canada
For what it's worth... I am dying to see an OPiS
Open Plug-in Standard !
or perhaps an OPuS
Open Plug-in Standard.
Not to be confused with opensource plugins
.t
Open Plug-in Standard !
or perhaps an OPuS
Open Plug-in Standard.
Not to be confused with opensource plugins
.t
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
how about Open Studio eXtensionsTallisman wrote:For what it's worth... I am dying to see an OPiS
Open Plug-in Standard !
or perhaps an OPuS
Open Plug-in Standard.
Not to be confused with opensource plugins
.t
DSP
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- KVRAF
- 2187 posts since 25 Jan, 2007 from the back room, away from his wife's sight (or so he thinks)
I kinda like the ring of FST. 
Cakewalk by Bandlab / FL Studio
Squire Stratocaster / Chapman ML3 Modern V2 / Fender Precision Bass
Formerly known as arke, VladimirDimitrievich, bslf, and ctmg. Yep, those bans were deserved.
Squire Stratocaster / Chapman ML3 Modern V2 / Fender Precision Bass
Formerly known as arke, VladimirDimitrievich, bslf, and ctmg. Yep, those bans were deserved.
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- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
We can vote later.Chris Walton wrote:I kinda like the ring of FST.