KVR Audio

tripleflows · Post by **tripleflows** » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:38 pm

It's getting there soon I think...

jue · Post by **jue** » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:22 pm

This sounds a little bit cheesy for me, not sure wether it were the presets or the synth overall?
Listen here www.pulsarmodular.com it sounds something different to me

Possible the old ARP or MOOG discussion again in 2016, only 50 years later, sorry?

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:31 am

tripleflows wrote:It's getting there soon I think...

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:47 am

It looks nice visually, but I'm not hearing anything super groundbreaking as far as modular VA synthesis goes..

Actually, I think Reaktor6 blocks sounds better in comparison to the above video.

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:50 am

V0RT3X wrote:It looks nice visually, but I'm not hearing anything super groundbreaking as far as modular VA synthesis goes..

Actually, I think Reaktor6 blocks sounds better in comparison to the above video.

I agree with that. I don't have a Eurorack / bunch of Doepfer modules to compare the sound to, so I can't say whether it is authentic or not.

I guess the corollary of that is that if it is a very accurate emulation then I am not enthused about owning the equivalent hardware either at any point in the future (pretty unlikely anyway for other reasons); to be fair, I have heard hardware owning others on here say that the Doepfer modules are not the greatest and that the interest lies in the third party (hardware) modules.

I appreciate that Softube's aim here is to provide a framework/API for the manufacturers of these to add to the system, but that leaves me wondering where all the expertise in DSP analog modelling is going to come from for this, when there are so few devs out there who are really good at this.

Given that I am unlikely ever to own the hardware, I do look forward to hearing more and demoing in the future, but at the moment the jury is out for me on this, admittedly, limited listen. Thanks for posting it though.

nix808 · Post by **nix808** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:43 am

It may not have a distinctive sound per se, and that demo is the sound of the poster of it? I mean- MAX and Flowstone, Reaktor, Reason,TassMan and Nord Modular- they sorta have very diverse sound design possibilities. I imagine this could be the same? I will have to try this myself sometime. I think this paradigm is a good idea.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:58 am

I do have a bunch of Doepfer modules, but not that particular filter. In general, I feel that the basic Doepfer oscillators are fine, but nothing particularly amazing. I definitely prefer their Curtis oscillator over the standard one. But I generally tend to go to other sound sources such as Harvestman, Plan B, or the truly massive Livewire AFG oscillator. Some of the basic Doepfer filters are also kind of meh... the A-120 is one of the only modules I've ever sold. That said, their original multimode filter still sounds pretty decent, and I love some of the other ones, especially their Wasp filter.

More to the point, that video seemed like it was only intended to demonstrate how the system holds up under feedback, which is usually where most emulations fall apart. In that respect, it seemed to do fairly well. But I really don't think you should use that demonstration as any sort of indication of what the whole plugin sounds like or what it is capable of. It can be whatever you want it to be. And unlike the smallish 6U Doepfer Basic System II which I started out with in 1996, you can add as many detuned oscillators as you want!

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:05 pm

Not my type of sound. Honestly I find it aweful. Blocks and Plsarmodular are far more interesting and pleasing.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:23 pm

deastman wrote:I do have a bunch of Doepfer modules, but not that particular filter. In general, I feel that the basic Doepfer oscillators are fine, but nothing particularly amazing. I definitely prefer their Curtis oscillator over the standard one. But I generally tend to go to other sound sources such as Harvestman, Plan B, or the truly massive Livewire AFG oscillator. Some of the basic Doepfer filters are also kind of meh... the A-120 is one of the only modules I've ever sold. That said, their original multimode filter still sounds pretty decent, and I love some of the other ones, especially their Wasp filter.

More to the point, that video seemed like it was only intended to demonstrate how the system holds up under feedback, which is usually where most emulations fall apart. In that respect, it seemed to do fairly well. But I really don't think you should use that demonstration as any sort of indication of what the whole plugin sounds like or what it is capable of. It can be whatever you want it to be. And unlike the smallish 6U Doepfer Basic System II which I started out with in 1996, you can add as many detuned oscillators as you want!

Thanks for this excellent post deastman!

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:21 pm

jue wrote:This sounds a little bit cheesy for me, not sure wether it were the presets or the synth overall?
Listen here http://www.pulsarmodular.com it sounds something different to me

Possible the old ARP or MOOG discussion again in 2016, only 50 years later, sorry?

I think you miss the point of that demo. The Pulsar demos sound good, but I've yet to hear it do a sound that couldn't be done by any number of fixed architecture analog synths. I'm sure Softube Modular will be able to do those too, but they're trying to show you how it holds up to abuse.

WolfKay · Post by **WolfKay** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:02 pm

zerocrossing wrote:I think you miss the point of that demo. The Pulsar demos sound good, but I've yet to hear it do a sound that couldn't be done by any number of fixed architecture analog synths. I'm sure Softube Modular will be able to do those too, but they're trying to show you how it holds up to abuse.

+1
My thoughts exactly, both on Pulsar and Softube Modular.
Then, why all the bashing for a product that hasn't been released yet? This seems a bit strange, really.
We will find out in a few days anyway.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:16 pm

WolfKay wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:I think you miss the point of that demo. The Pulsar demos sound good, but I've yet to hear it do a sound that couldn't be done by any number of fixed architecture analog synths. I'm sure Softube Modular will be able to do those too, but they're trying to show you how it holds up to abuse.
+1
My thoughts exactly, both on Pulsar and Softube Modular.
Then, why all the bashing for a product that hasn't been released yet? This seems a bit strange, really.
We will find out in a few days anyway.

Is there a release date?

WolfKay · Post by **WolfKay** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:37 pm

Not yet, but some reactions on their Facebook page suggest that it shouldn't be long.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:52 pm

Are we there yet? Are we there yet???

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:55 pm

WolfKay wrote:Not yet, but some reactions on their Facebook page suggest that it shouldn't be long.

I hope so. I have a serious addiction for modular synths.