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David@TOYBOX wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:29 am We've just added a new, free 'User Blocks' pack to the toybox website for use with the new Reaktor 6.4 update (which opens up the possibility to create your own blocks for use in Racks).

Currently the pack only contains one new block, the Modulation Lane. We will be adding new blocks to the pack every few weeks.

The Modulation Lane is a single modulation lane from the Synth Pack Piano Roll, placed into a new block for creative routing.

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The User Blocks pack is available now for free from the toybox website: https://www.toyboxaudio.com/

(We are also currently running a special offer on the Synth Pack just enter SYNTH30 when checking out for a 30% discount).
thanks!! and thanks for your efforts, for the user blocks!

the 4 packs i have of toybox keep me still too busy (too? still discovering new things, endless possibilities, and patchworks..) and the other stuff..
i have a question about the MPE block, normally i can figured it out myself, but last weeks, my energy level is very low, and concentration almost gone...
how to use the MPE block? (which seems to be tailored for roli, which i bought.. roli blocks..)

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WasteLand wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:15 pm thanks!! and thanks for your efforts, for the user bollocks!
:?
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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Looking into the ET Blocks, I'm not sure I understand the design. Why are there four variants of everything, and how do you remember which to use?

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bob swans wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:56 pm Everything Turns Blocks have been updated with FPP
I never bothered with them before but now they are £20
for previous customers.

https://www.everythingturns.com/ET-V2/et-home.html
Good god, these are really ugly :o . Won't pick even for free.
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imrae wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:25 am Looking into the ET Blocks, I'm not sure I understand the design. Why are there four variants of everything, and how do you remember which to use?
Yeah it does rather give the appearance of there being a lot of modules when in fact most are variants on the same thing, why have a separate module for sine, saw, tri etc orcs when you can have an osc with multiple shapes?

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Well, if they mentioned what waveform they did in the name it would at least be descriptive. But e.g. Klangpuck A-D all have the same interface, and the description is
Each percussive generator in KLANGpuck uses eight triangle oscillators that modulate four sine-wave oscillators to produce a metallic tone that cycles in pitch producing a constantly evolving waveform.
so they seem to apply the same principle to the same waveforms with the same controls?

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DJ Warmonger wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:02 am
bob swans wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:56 pm Everything Turns Blocks have been updated with FPP
I never bothered with them before but now they are £20
for previous customers.

https://www.everythingturns.com/ET-V2/et-home.html
Good god, these are really ugly :o . Won't pick even for free.
haha - that's what I thought..

...won't go wrong getting this set:
https://www.unfilteredaudio.com/products/euro-reakt

the great variety of presets makes learning patching easier.
Hopefully there is an update coming at some point.Why not...6.4 pls... :roll:
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AcrossTheSky wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:46 am ...won't go wrong getting this set:
https://www.unfilteredaudio.com/products/euro-reakt
It's on my wishlist, but are there any good show & tell videos for this pack? It's rather cryptic.
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DJ Warmonger wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:51 am It's on my wishlist, but are there any good show & tell videos for this pack? It's rather cryptic.
At first hand... Regards,
tl.

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Additionally the "Sunday Funday" channel on Youtube went through many of the blocks something around a year ago.


Regards,
tl.

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aMUSEd wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:55 pm
bharris22 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:10 pm As an existing owner of Everything Turns Reaktor Blocks, I have this question, as well. Wouldn't be fair, IMHO, for both existing owners of blocks as well as everyone else to pay the same price for the upgrade. I sent an e-mail to Dave asking for clarification, but have not yet heard back from him.
Me neither - not happy with paying £55 when others get to pay £20.
The response I received from Dave was simply "It’s a paid update, your account will only download the version connected with the original order." I sent him another message letting him know that the current pricing was unfair to existing owners - I'll let you know if he writes back.

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Ditto ;)

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bharris22 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:58 am
aMUSEd wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:55 pm
bharris22 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:10 pm As an existing owner of Everything Turns Reaktor Blocks, I have this question, as well. Wouldn't be fair, IMHO, for both existing owners of blocks as well as everyone else to pay the same price for the upgrade. I sent an e-mail to Dave asking for clarification, but have not yet heard back from him.
Me neither - not happy with paying £55 when others get to pay £20.
The response I received from Dave was simply "It’s a paid update, your account will only download the version connected with the original order." I sent him another message letting him know that the current pricing was unfair to existing owners - I'll let you know if he writes back.
paid update, but i could buy it not as an update.. as already mentioned.
(bought first a small block, so together 21,50 pound)
so it is not an update.. or is it?

EDIT: they may be ugly (i don't see it.. they aren't great, as GUI, but functional, enough), but the sound, and possibilities... (and i have euro reakt, the paid bundle + free, and 4 toybox packs).

by the way

brett blocks are also updated. and the cloudlab v3 version, the blocks can now be loaded into a rack, buchla + every thing else...

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WasteLand wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:15 pm
David@TOYBOX wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:29 am We've just added a new, free 'User Blocks' pack to the toybox website for use with the new Reaktor 6.4 update (which opens up the possibility to create your own blocks for use in Racks).

Currently the pack only contains one new block, the Modulation Lane. We will be adding new blocks to the pack every few weeks.

The Modulation Lane is a single modulation lane from the Synth Pack Piano Roll, placed into a new block for creative routing.

Image


The User Blocks pack is available now for free from the toybox website: https://www.toyboxaudio.com/

(We are also currently running a special offer on the Synth Pack just enter SYNTH30 when checking out for a 30% discount).
thanks!! and thanks for your efforts, for the user blocks!

the 4 packs i have of toybox keep me still too busy (too? still discovering new things, endless possibilities, and patchworks..) and the other stuff..
i have a question about the MPE block, normally i can figured it out myself, but last weeks, my energy level is very low, and concentration almost gone...
how to use the MPE block? (which seems to be tailored for roli, which i bought.. roli blocks..)
The toybox MPE block is monophonic, as Reaktor blocks are primarily monophonic.

Although it will work with polyphonic MPE controllers like the Roli Seaboard, it will only output one note at a time (the most recent not played). It works well with the Roli Lightpad block.

I can make a version of the block that was polyphonic but the polyphony of the instrument connected to it would need to ideally be set to 16 voices, as MPE standard works in a way that each polyphonic voice is assigned to a different MIDI channel (1 to 16). Drop me an email (via the toybox site) and I can send you something to try out if you like.

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David@TOYBOX wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:48 pm
WasteLand wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:15 pm
David@TOYBOX wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:29 am We've just added a new, free 'User Blocks' pack to the toybox website for use with the new Reaktor 6.4 update (which opens up the possibility to create your own blocks for use in Racks).

Currently the pack only contains one new block, the Modulation Lane. We will be adding new blocks to the pack every few weeks.

The Modulation Lane is a single modulation lane from the Synth Pack Piano Roll, placed into a new block for creative routing.

Image


The User Blocks pack is available now for free from the toybox website: https://www.toyboxaudio.com/

(We are also currently running a special offer on the Synth Pack just enter SYNTH30 when checking out for a 30% discount).
thanks!! and thanks for your efforts, for the user blocks!

the 4 packs i have of toybox keep me still too busy (too? still discovering new things, endless possibilities, and patchworks..) and the other stuff..
i have a question about the MPE block, normally i can figured it out myself, but last weeks, my energy level is very low, and concentration almost gone...
how to use the MPE block? (which seems to be tailored for roli, which i bought.. roli blocks..)
The toybox MPE block is monophonic, as Reaktor blocks are primarily monophonic.

Although it will work with polyphonic MPE controllers like the Roli Seaboard, it will only output one note at a time (the most recent not played). It works well with the Roli Lightpad block.

I can make a version of the block that was polyphonic but the polyphony of the instrument connected to it would need to ideally be set to 16 voices, as MPE standard works in a way that each polyphonic voice is assigned to a different MIDI channel (1 to 16). Drop me an email (via the toybox site) and I can send you something to try out if you like.
i didn't made MPE patches yet (EDIT: later on i say something else: i mean for reaktor, for MPE synths i am working on patches). i thirst tried voltage modular, it has an polyponic MPE module. i use the poly to mono (cv) modules, in between. one for each channel. the only simple thing i did was 4 Mini-V3...

but it has it possibilities, MPE patches for "normal" synths are already a new territory.

within a monophonic environment (although there are polyphonic toybox audio blocks...) it is more difficult to make a good MPE patch. mainly i use monophonic stuff.

it will also depends on how you play the block, or the rise. or.. (i have bought a roli seabord block, cheap, and a lightpad M second hand, very cheap.)

you can make the first note control the pitch the second note only use the slide, pressure, glide, lift.

MPE is 15 voices by the way, 1 channel is global (can be channel 1 or 15, most of the times the global channel 1, roli calls it also the master channel, it is for all none poly CC values. like the XYZ on lightpad M, or the 3 CV's and XY on rise (which can also be done on a lightpad M).

i see on the MPE module:
pitch
slide
PB (glide in roli terms)
AT (pressure in roli terms)
Lift

no strike/velocity

x
y
z

are global, just CC values (not bidirectional even..)

i am not a MPE expert, first you must learn to play, then learn to make patches with it, and while you make patches you learn more about to play it, and change patches because how you can play it... so i am in the early stages.

softube modular as a roli module, that i can use completely. it is only 4 voice, it is enough. you can per note (or per strike?) set what is send, not all notes are connected, i.e. some notes only pressure, or slide. the real modular way.

the MPE module of voltage modular, with poly to mono can be used when playing one note, a second note that only affects the filter, or filters.

so for a modular you need another playing technique, or in my head, when you do all monophonic.

voltage modular is very capable to be polyphonic, so that is also an option. but i like most of the times monophonic, why? o well.

the MPE of toybox i didn't use yet, with one note you have already 5D control, but its nice to have more notes.

by the way the tooltips mostly show "slide", is this the macro (is this right term) of roli itself?

i don't think it has your priority, but roli has a steady sell, even now (although sometimes it costs weeks). and you have sensel morph, joué, and more expensive linnstrument.

but i think a good designed MPE module, will be welcomed, by some users... it will make reaktor blocks more dynamic, it will be an addition.

you don't have to implement al 15 voices, softube modular does 4, and it seems enough, voltage modular, has 15.

it is meant yes for your polyphonic blocks, but also for monophonic blocks, although, i repeat, will have a different approach. but i like that.

EDIT: i also will send an e-mail. thanks! but i thought this is perhaps interesting for other people....

i notice, maybe it is how i make patches, that playing with roli, you get almost modular sounding stuff... but that is also the filters and/or effects playing a roll.
i believe MPE in a modular can open up a lot of possibilities, and me thinks, even if you don't have MPE, in cubase and bitwig you can do it by hand... didn't try it yet.. and no need for it, yet...

but mainly of course a MPE controller is the thing for MPE..... it is an expansion of the realm even for a modular. yes i am enthousiastic. i stalled a long time, 2 or 3 years, but it is now the time, i had to learn more, to really get a grip on all things.

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