D16 Drumazon 2 is coming

[stash98]

Their 606 is equally as good ,in fact it’s a brilliant drum machine in its own right

Aside from Elektrons hardware offerings I personally regard d16’s software drum emulations as just stunning instruments in their own right,I can get some really interesting results using their sequencers and fx

Premium instruments in my opinion with more than fair asking prices

I will have to check that one out. I love the 606 and the version on the TR8S is lacking a bit imo. The 606 hi hats need to be nailed to really capture the machines magic, imo.

[electro]

I love the 606 and the version on the TR8S is lacking a bit imo. The 606 hi hats need to be nailed to really capture the machines magic, imo.

TR-06 came after TR-8s. Both have closer accuracy than d16

[Echoes in the Attic]

I like Drumazon quite a bit and seems very accurate. I was less impressed with Nepheton 2, still really prefer the roland cloud version.

[sqigls]

i'm a super avid fan of the 808 so i was hoping v2 would nail the sound, which it doesn't, but it's still one of my favourite drum synth plugins. Drumazon is great too. I think one thing about comparing these plugins to hardware is - most of the "genuine" sounds of 808s and 909s we've all heard a hundred times have been quite heavily processed. And the components of these hardware units were sometimes even faulty when they left the factory, also the fact they're now vintage hardware, so there must be a considerable amount of variation in the sound of 808 units world wide. Nepheton's hi-hats are a bit disappointing to me, missing the mojo of the hardware, but the hardware hat sound is built around faulty components so possibly very hard to replicate? The snare too, is not right, to my ears. Which you know - kick snare hat... like everything else could be kinda meh, but those three need to be spot on to be a convincing emulation, especially for the 808.

If anyone ever releases an algorithmic plugin that really nails the 808 sound it would be an instabuy from a lot of people.

just thinking too, it's possible that if D16 would have got a lot closer to hardware sound, the effect on the CPU might have been insanely unstable. ?

[stash98]

i'm a super avid fan of the 808 so i was hoping v2 would nail the sound, which it doesn't, but it's still one of my favourite drum synth plugins. Drumazon is great too. I think one thing about comparing these plugins to hardware is - most of the "genuine" sounds of 808s and 909s we've all heard a hundred times have been quite heavily processed. And the components of these hardware units were sometimes even faulty when they left the factory, also the fact they're now vintage hardware, so there must be a considerable amount of variation in the sound of 808 units world wide. Nepheton's hi-hats are a bit disappointing to me, missing the mojo of the hardware, but the hardware hat sound is built around faulty components so possibly very hard to replicate? The snare too, is not right, to my ears. Which you know - kick snare hat... like everything else could be kinda meh, but those three need to be spot on to be a convincing emulation, especially for the 808.

If anyone ever releases an algorithmic plugin that really nails the 808 sound it would be an instabuy from a lot of people.

just thinking too, it's possible that if D16 would have got a lot closer to hardware sound, the effect on the CPU might have been insanely unstable. ?

I see it your way. I had the extra cash and bought nepheton2 on sale. It’s not a dead on 808 but it’s still a damn good drum machine. I really like what I can do with the kick, it has really good punch.

Was just looking for a compliment to the 909 and I think this does a good job at that. Drumazon2 is still the lead dog but I have no problem swapping in sounds from this machine. It’s very easy to process and shape.

I think you were mentioning Type B and that’s quite awesome on hats. Easily my go to now.

[Rastkovic]

Hi. I know it is a synth, not a sampler. But I noticed that every clap hit is so different from each other. I mean it is veery noticeable difference, especially when with shorter to mid decay. Instability is in the attack stage, where the rapid repetitions live. Would be nice to have some waveform "reset" function.

It gets much better, if you use a compressor and clipper on the clap sound.

But, the RD-9 clap seems to sound good right out of the box (@7:45). I'm a bit tempted to buy one, but of course, not just for the clap.

[dionenoid]

Hi. I know it is a synth, not a sampler. But I noticed that every clap hit is so different from each other. I mean it is veery noticeable difference, especially when with shorter to mid decay. Instability is in the attack stage, where the rapid repetitions live. Would be nice to have some waveform "reset" function.

It gets much better, if you use a compressor and clipper on the clap sound.

It's supposed to sound like that, with both the 909 or 808 clap. It's what makes it unique and why it is used so much.

[Igro]

Hi. I know it is a synth, not a sampler. But I noticed that every clap hit is so different from each other. I mean it is veery noticeable difference, especially when with shorter to mid decay. Instability is in the attack stage, where the rapid repetitions live. Would be nice to have some waveform "reset" function.

It gets much better, if you use a compressor and clipper on the clap sound.

It's supposed to sound like that, with both the 909 or 808 clap. It's what makes it unique and why it is used so much.

For live performance, yes. But for a record, I guess it is sampled later on. Putting a reverb on an unstable clap will give a different tonality to a reverb tail with every hit.

[dionenoid]

Hi. I know it is a synth, not a sampler. But I noticed that every clap hit is so different from each other. I mean it is veery noticeable difference, especially when with shorter to mid decay. Instability is in the attack stage, where the rapid repetitions live. Would be nice to have some waveform "reset" function.

It gets much better, if you use a compressor and clipper on the clap sound.

It's supposed to sound like that, with both the 909 or 808 clap. It's what makes it unique and why it is used so much.

For live performance, yes. But for a record, I guess it is sampled later on. Putting a reverb on an unstable clap will give a different tonality to a reverb tail with every hit.

No they never sampled it. Quite the contrary, it's why many used the 909 or 808 clap in the first place. Modern drummachines (like Microtonic) or sampled instruments (like Revolution) even 'emulate' this. If anything needs round robin samples it's the 909 clap.

For several genres it's also kinda essential. House, techno, trap, all kinds of genres that use repeating claps. And if you want that oldschool sound, then start by not using a sampled clap.

Also, most sounds of the 909 and 808 fluctuate on each hit (for example, run a drum roll with a 909 snare and you will notice how different it sounds to using a sample). But with the clap it's most apparent. And when using the 909 sequencer it's even more hearable, as then the timing differences also come into play.

[Rastkovic]

Hi. I know it is a synth, not a sampler. But I noticed that every clap hit is so different from each other. I mean it is veery noticeable difference, especially when with shorter to mid decay. Instability is in the attack stage, where the rapid repetitions live. Would be nice to have some waveform "reset" function.

It gets much better, if you use a compressor and clipper on the clap sound.

It's supposed to sound like that, with both the 909 or 808 clap. It's what makes it unique and why it is used so much.

For live performance, yes. But for a record, I guess it is sampled later on. Putting a reverb on an unstable clap will give a different tonality to a reverb tail with every hit.

No they never sampled it.

Interesting, I have the opposite opinion. Some Techno producers even sampled their kicks from other records, Dave Clarke/Wisdom to the Wise is a famous example as a sound source. The raw 909 drummachine sound reminds me of Chicago House and early (Detroit) Techno.

[electro]

If anyone ever releases an algorithmic plugin that really nails the 808 sound it would be an instabuy from a lot of people.

just thinking too, it's possible that if D16 would have got a lot closer to hardware sound, the effect on the CPU might have been insanely unstable. ?

d16 did a great job on their new 909. Unfortunately their new 808 isn't much better than the old one.

[dionenoid]

Hi. I know it is a synth, not a sampler. But I noticed that every clap hit is so different from each other. I mean it is veery noticeable difference, especially when with shorter to mid decay. Instability is in the attack stage, where the rapid repetitions live. Would be nice to have some waveform "reset" function.

It gets much better, if you use a compressor and clipper on the clap sound.

It's supposed to sound like that, with both the 909 or 808 clap. It's what makes it unique and why it is used so much.

For live performance, yes. But for a record, I guess it is sampled later on. Putting a reverb on an unstable clap will give a different tonality to a reverb tail with every hit.

No they never sampled it.

Interesting, I have the opposite opinion. Some Techno producers even sampled their kicks from other records, Dave Clarke/Wisdom to the Wise is a famous example as a sound source. The raw 909 drummachine sound reminds me of Chicago House and early (Detroit) Techno.

Why are you starting about someone sampling a kick from someone else ? Ofcourse ppl sampled drums from others, but they didn't sample the claps when they were using their own 909.

Because again, that is how a 909 is supposed to sound, and a big part of its charm.