Fender Studio Pro 8 Released

[dastewart]

When Presonus announced v7 I was so pi$$ed off I decided to look at other DAWs and spent a bit of time trying Reaper. Unfortunately, I hit a showstopper as it performed really badly (in terms of CPU efficiency) compared to Studio One so I just stuck with v6.

When Fender announced Studio Pro 8 I was so pi$$ed off that I decided to look at Cubase. Unfortunately, I hit a showstopper when I discovered that you can't add buses to folders. They have folders, they have buses (called group tracks) but you can't combine the two. From a routing perspective, and the subsequent impact on the mix console, it's a non-starter.

Seems like you can check out of Studio One any time you like, but you can never leave.

[jens]

Just spent a couple of hours reading through this thread and Fender's list of v.8 news, looking for a feature that maybe even hasn't got an established term.

In Live it's in the Create menu: Capture MIDI. In Logic it's called Flashback capture (Shift+R). The DAW is always recording in the background and I can recover it to a MIDI track, if I realise that I just happened to hit on a riff or phrase or chord sequence that might change my life.

Is there an option like that in S1 7 or in Fender 8? If there isn't, I just wonder – why not?

/JHS

The established standard term for this is "retrospective recording" which is how it is named in Studio One as well and has been there since V5.1 - you can find it in the Inspector - this is just for MIDI though ( it's kind of there for audio as well but in a completely different way).

[audiojunkie]

…but 8 IS supported. It’s available—for Linux.

Correction. There is a v8 for Linux. And it is NOT supported. And never has been.

It is (and always has been) in what they call "permanent beta".

Basically - it's there if you want it - but you are on your own if you want to use it.

VP

Ah, yes. By supported, I meant that they are providing binaries. But I’m pretty sure you knew what I meant.

I have just logged into the Linux beta discussion, and Fender Pro Studio 8 still does not support GUI's for third party VST's, and no pipe-wire support yet either. A Fender (Presonus) developer says that there have been no changes since Studio One 7.2.3 and Studio Pro 8.0, but development continues.

That sounds about what I understood everything to be. We are still ok. When they are referring to Pipewire support, they are referring to Pipewire native support, if I understand correctly. However, I believe they still support JACK, if I'm not mistaken. And Jack is the important one, since IRQ based scheduling is only supported through Jack and the Pro Audio profile. So it's no different than Reaper in this situation. The one that really turns me off though is the lack of GUI support for all X11 plugins (which is about 99% of all plugins that have ever been made for Linux). So, I guess I'll just keep watching with interest, and see how things develop.

[Spitfire31]

Kudos to tommijk and jens for enlightening me about 'retrospective recording' in S1!
/JHS

[dellboy]

That sounds about what I understood everything to be. We are still ok. When they are referring to Pipewire support, they are referring to Pipewire native support, if I understand correctly. However, I believe they still support JACK, if I'm not mistaken. And Jack is the important one, since IRQ based scheduling is only supported through Jack and the Pro Audio profile. So it's no different than Reaper in this situation. The one that really turns me off though is the lack of GUI support for all X11 plugins (which is about 99% of all plugins that have ever been made for Linux). So, I guess I'll just keep watching with interest, and see how things develop.

I may be wrong, but I get the impression that just one lone developer who likes Linux works on it as a side project.

[audiojunkie]

That sounds about what I understood everything to be. We are still ok. When they are referring to Pipewire support, they are referring to Pipewire native support, if I understand correctly. However, I believe they still support JACK, if I'm not mistaken. And Jack is the important one, since IRQ based scheduling is only supported through Jack and the Pro Audio profile. So it's no different than Reaper in this situation. The one that really turns me off though is the lack of GUI support for all X11 plugins (which is about 99% of all plugins that have ever been made for Linux). So, I guess I'll just keep watching with interest, and see how things develop.

I may be wrong, but I get the impression that just one lone developer who likes Linux works on it as a side project.

It's always possible. There are only 3 guys working on the entire Reaper project for all OSes. I'm just thankful that Fender Studio is being worked on for Linux.

[dellboy]

The one that really turns me off though is the lack of GUI support for all X11 plugins (which is about 99% of all plugins that have ever been made for Linux). So, I guess I'll just keep watching with interest, and see how things develop.

If I remember correctly, the general idea was that they were leaving it to Linux developers to make there plugins compatible with Wayland. So Fender Studio is highly unlikely to ever host X11 plugins.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I may be wrong, but I get the impression that just one lone developer who likes Linux works on it as a side project.

You are not wrong. Had a few conversations with a few staffers over the years. The Linux version is nothing more than a "skunkworks" style project that comes out of a back room somewhere. It is not considered to be commerically viable in any way - and anyone actually using Linux (for realz) - should be tempering any expectations on this version.

VP

[musicalwarmth812]

For those of you that have registered new hardware recently and didn’t receive the software, did anyone at Presonus ask you for a picture of the serial number and a bill of sale?

I have registered some hardware with them in the past, even one that was gifted, and was never asked for a bill of sale or a picture of the serial number. All I’ve had to do before was register the serial number and the promised software was automatically deposited into my account.

I bought Quantum HD8 in November 2024 and when I tried to register it, it said invalid serial number. I created a ticket and they asked for the receipt. I sent, then they added the unit to my account.

Thanks. In my case the hardware registered fine, but they still asked for it. Guess it’s a new thing under the FenDaw support. Not a huge deal, but found out they recently discontinued the Studio Magic suite that it was advertised to come with, and also no v7 license, straight to 8.

[mabian]

It's always possible. There are only 3 guys working on the entire Reaper project for all OSes. I'm just thankful that Fender Studio is being worked on for Linux.

Is it?

[audiojunkie]

I may be wrong, but I get the impression that just one lone developer who likes Linux works on it as a side project.

You are not wrong. Had a few conversations with a few staffers over the years. The Linux version is nothing more than a "skunkworks" style project that comes out of a back room somewhere. It is not considered to be commerically viable in any way - and anyone actually using Linux (for realz) - should be tempering any expectations on this version.

VP

Good to know!

[VitaminD]

When Presonus announced v7 I was so pi$$ed off I decided to look at other DAWs and spent a bit of time trying Reaper. Unfortunately, I hit a showstopper as it performed really badly (in terms of CPU efficiency) compared to Studio One so I just stuck with v6.

When Fender announced Studio Pro 8 I was so pi$$ed off that I decided to look at Cubase. Unfortunately, I hit a showstopper when I discovered that you can't add buses to folders. They have folders, they have buses (called group tracks) but you can't combine the two. From a routing perspective, and the subsequent impact on the mix console, it's a non-starter.

Seems like you can check out of Studio One any time you like, but you can never leave.

I never use folders within Cubase, so please excuse me if I misunderstand. But are you referring to moving a group track (bus) into a folder?

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I never use folders within Cubase, so please excuse me if I misunderstand. But are you referring to moving a group track (bus) into a folder?

He is talking about taking a folder full of tracks and automatically routing everything IN that folder to a new bus. A killer workflow feature only in S1/SP

VP

[VitaminD]

I never use folders within Cubase, so please excuse me if I misunderstand. But are you referring to moving a group track (bus) into a folder?

He is talking about taking a folder full of tracks and automatically routing everything IN that folder to a new bus. A killer workflow feature only in S1/SP

Oh so he wants to right click on the folder track and select a new group track? If so then that indeed isn't possible in Cubase. One can select the tracks and reassign them to a pre-existing group track or let cubase make a new group track though. But no one click auto assign feature it seems.

[tonedef71]

I get the impression a programmer with no music experience made Reaper when I've used it.

You just described F(ruity) L(oops) Studio.