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Don't Do the Neural (Slight Return)
https://www.flowmusic.app/song/f78a08e0 ... 628d0bcbf6

I think AI is fun, often surprising.

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guitarzan wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 7:21 am Don't Do the Neural (Slight Return)
https://www.flowmusic.app/song/f78a08e0 ... 628d0bcbf6

I think AI is fun, often surprising.
This version is better, more confident and forceful. I'm going to say it, and you guys can get as mad as you want, but the base level of competence in AI tracks means that I'm willing to listen to them all the way through more often than not. The same cannot be said for a lot of the music posted here. I think that's a baseline for nearly any amateur producer. Take your idea, create an AI version, now you have a quality target. Don't tell me that yours is better when it demonstrably isn't. If your music is more creative, it should stand out when heard side by side with the AI version. It should make the AI version sound like the flat lifeless variant that so many of you are asserting that it absolutely must be. Don't take that as universal praise for AI music, hardly, there is a sameness, there are frequently issues in the production and mix. Thinking though that a mix is going to save terrible vocals or an uninspired structure is wish thinking.

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guitarzan wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 7:21 am Don't Do the Neural (Slight Return)
https://www.flowmusic.app/song/f78a08e0 ... 628d0bcbf6

I think AI is fun, often surprising.
How much of this was anything more than a few sentences of prompt?

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ghettosynth wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2026 10:09 am …but the base level of competence in AI tracks means that I'm willing to listen to them all the way through more often than not. The same cannot be said for a lot of the music posted here. I think that's a baseline for nearly any amateur producer. Take your idea, create an AI version, now you have a quality target. Don't tell me that yours is better when it demonstrably isn't. If your music is more creative, it should stand out when heard side by side with the AI version. It should make the AI version sound like the flat lifeless variant that so many of you are asserting that it absolutely must be. Don't take that as universal praise for AI music, hardly, there is a sameness, there are frequently issues in the production and mix.
Competence isn't the sole property of art and it's not progress. For all the talk, in general, about AI being the "Future," AI is only a snapshot of the past. If you want to go to the past that's great, but I for one would go to the source, not some ersatz facsimile, prompted by a person that hasn't put-in-the-time as they say. If you want AI to do something new, then it needs training data, and therefore it's not new. An amateur can create something new an amateur, or professional(once amateur), can improve upon art/music. Any time spent listening to AI playback is just dumb. I fully realize most humans that participate in music or art creation won't advance these fields in any way. But, humans, as of today, are the only vehicle for any progress to be made—if AGI comes about then that may be another story, and may something have mercy on us all.
When the data is corrupt in the Desert of the Real, Beyond the Last Thought, where intuition reigns, is the solace that will embolden and strengthen the soul, giving hope once more to this age of failing technique. eassae.com

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