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Tony Ostinato wrote: and not black!

but... REAPER let's you create any theme/color combination you like, and as black is beautiful as you wish... :) just another example -

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you could of course choose dark grey VU meters as well... other icons, transport buttons, faders etc

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Tempting... if the Skins are available for download, I might finally take a peek as alternative to ProTools or general recording alternative on my Laptop.
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Compyfox wrote:Tempting... if the Skins are available for download, I might finally take a peek as alternative to ProTools or general recording alternative on my Laptop.
But they are! In REAPER's color theme forum: http://www.cockos.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=26

No need to register there to be able to download the theme files.

BTW White Tie has this one in the making...:

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That's nice! (I'd have to see the track and clips view before I was convinced though) ;)

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alex zonder wrote:
brok landers wrote:wherever you might think it's placed best, i think it's better for you to judge about it ... my hope is, that justin reads this, an loses some words about it in whatever direction ...
as it's not about midi only, but about the workflow-philosophy in general i'd better not decide myself where to post it ...

in any way:
thank you so much for doing this!
lemme have a link then, so i can follow, if necessary!
brok, it's in general discussion forum here: http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread. ... #post98360
thanks, that is so kind!
let's hope it gains some attention there ...:)
thanks again!
regards,
brok landers
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fandango wrote:That's nice! (I'd have to see the track and clips view before I was convinced though) ;)
I am sure that white tie will do the arrange view, items, regions, markers, midi editor justice... he has an eye for that. BUT, should he, indeed, drop the ball, you can tweak 'till your heart's content, and it is very easy to do. Essentially, the Advanced Themeing is merely a shell/frame as you can change the working colours of any window's items and visuals, while leaving the look of the TCP/MCP and icons intact.

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Its funny that it would take FAR less time, as in 1 or 2 minutes to download and run the app than to say "I havent downloaded it yet, does it do this?"

This isnt the traditional midi sequencer with audio thrown in as an aftethought that installs crap all over your PC, the install is painless and easily tossable

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Pipelineaudio wrote:Its funny that it would take FAR less time, as in 1 or 2 minutes to download and run the app than to say "I havent downloaded it yet, does it do this?"

This isnt the traditional midi sequencer with audio thrown in as an aftethought that installs crap all over your PC, the install is painless and easily tossable
So true! There's no registry crap at all, only 2 folders are created:

C:/Program Files/REAPER....where the program .exe and most of the stuff is, and

C:/Documents and Settings/USER/Application Data/REAPER...which holds the .ini files and track templates, fx presets etc.

That's it! Backing up Reaper is simply copying those 2 Folders...you copy those 2 folders to another computer, and Reaper works as normal (assuming your vst and audio files are in the same locations on the new computer).

You have to love easy install and backup...REAPER makes it a no brainer. :D

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Actually, Reaper does write to the registry. Only one entry, but it still does.

No, it's not important or anything, but it's not true that it doesn't write ANYTHING to the registry.

That being said, I've never had a problem with a host writing to the registry. Heck, many hosts only write stuff like file associations, such as Tracktion. I can run Tracktion, EXT, etc. straight off of my flash drive without restriction. But even those who DO write more have NEVER even once given me a problem.

Just my own experience, although I'm sure others will have other problems they have had. But even Sonar gives me no problems, and it writes to the registry plenty(all in two VERY easy and logical places, nothing hidden).

For trying out Reaper, sure it's a great selling point. But it's hardly something that is essential for me to choose a software.

If you keep an eye on your registry, you won't have a problem anyways.

Just my own views, of course.

Brent
My host is better than your host

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Pipelineaudio wrote:Its funny that it would take FAR less time, as in 1 or 2 minutes to download and run the app than to say "I havent downloaded it yet, does it do this?"

This isnt the traditional midi sequencer with audio thrown in as an aftethought that installs crap all over your PC, the install is painless and easily tossable
Yeah,

actually it's the unconventional and very cool audio sequencer where basic midi and automation is implemented and we hope that it gets some stuff done in those areas soon. Very soon.
Yes, I like Reaper a lot. Really. :hyper:

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koolkeys wrote:Actually, Reaper does write to the registry. Only one entry, but it still does.

No, it's not important or anything, but it's not true that it doesn't write ANYTHING to the registry.
What is this elusive entry? As you said, it's not important at all and affects nothing.

I've read plenty of stories from ex-Sonar users of registry hiccups, especially when installing new stuff. Nicholas shared a horror story recently (our user manual writer).

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As I said, it's a USELESS entry for the purpose of uninstalling. It is an entry to keep track of where it's installed.

Again, not important, but it DOES write to the registry!

As for Sonar, I've heard very few complaints about the registry stuff. I've never had a problem, period. And the other users I've talked to(mind you, not necessarily a real representation of the userbase) have had a trouble free time. It doesn't write anything dangerous or 'secret'. Easy to remove if needed, as it's all in two places.

Writing to the registry isn't a bad thing. I'm just tired of people thinking that it's evil to do so. Yeah, so an app that doesn't write to the registry is "cleaner", but I run my computers for years without having registry issues. I could care less.

Most registry problems stem from two things:

1. Installing questionable software, or software from an untrusted source
2. Not paying attention or ever cleaning your registry

Everything else is just a fluke(for the most part), and flukes happen when you have millions of combinations in software and hardware setups. I'm fully convinced that the registry is a good thing, and not many people have great reasons to not want to use it.

Sorry for the 'mini rant' here, but people see writing to the registry as something that makes a program worse then another program that doesn't, and that just simply aint true. Not singling out Reaper here, just making a general statement.

Brent
My host is better than your host

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koolkeys wrote: Sorry for the 'mini rant' here, but people see writing to the registry as something that makes a program worse then another program that doesn't, and that just simply aint true. Not singling out Reaper here, just making a general statement.
I disagree totally, if Reaper can do it without writing to the registry, that's a great thing. It's MUCH easier to change computers/hardware or backup, that's a fact.

You may not have experienced problems with it, but plenty of others have. :D

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MOST people when putting software on a different computer do NOT just transfer an entire file structure over. MOST people will do a fresh install on the new computer. They transfer their settings over, sure. But I have not seen very many people in my life, nor have I seen the purpose in doing so, who 'move' software from one computer to another.

Sorry, but saying that it makes it easy to transfer may SOUND cool, but it serves no real functional purpose.

And it's a FACT that the registry isn't a bad thing. Thousands of fantastic pieces of software use the registry, with no problems.

By the way, I haven't seen the "plenty of others" who have experienced registry problems, with Sonar or otherwise. Yes, there are some, and I'm not saying they don't exist. But the evidence to support that claim, when you consider how many people are around and using various software, is next to null.

It's not me trying to be confrontational. It's me just trying to dispell these supposed rumors that programs which write to the registry are any worse off then those which don't.

Now, that being said, there are indeed programs that hide things in the registry. There are programs that slow down your registry. That's why I don't install programs from vendors I don't trust. That's basic computer responsibility, and the majority of the time, it's enough to prevent registry issues.

Brent
My host is better than your host

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Oh, and as usual, I forget the most important part of my post: :D :wink: :) :P 8) :hug:

In case anyone thinks I'm in this for all negative reasons.

Brent
My host is better than your host

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