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zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:09 pm

Urs, someone asked and I may have missed your response or maybe you may have missed the question.
Basically he was asking if the HZ version and specifically its presets, allows us to use the license for commerical projects if we purchase the license from you?
rsp

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:13 pm

zvenx wrote:Urs, someone asked and I may have missed your response or maybe you may have missed the question.
Basically he was asking if the HZ version and specifically its presets, allows us to use the license for commerical projects if we purchase the license from you?
rsp

Do you see Fender suing people for using their guitars on recordings?

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:52 pm

That's bad analogy. since you actually own the Fender guitar you buy, not license it....
truthfully I am sure you will be able to use the presets as you want to, but confirmation can't hurt.....

rsp

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:54 pm

then came Sue, but that died too ... (sing along)

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:00 pm

Solitary man?
rsp

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:08 pm

zvenx wrote:That's bad analogy. since you actually own the Fender guitar you buy, not license it....
truthfully I am sure you will be able to use the presets as you want to, but confirmation can't hurt.....

rsp

You don't own the shape of the headstock which is trademarked. You don't own the patents on the tremolo bridge. It's a fine analogy, in response to a silly question. Of COURSE you can use the sounds in professional music production. You could even sample the sounds the synth makes and resell it as a sample set. (But you can't sample a sampler, because that's literally copying copyrighted data.) The only thing you can't do is resell the software, or resell the patch files.

Could you imagine a musical instrument product that stipulated you COULDN'T use the sounds it makes in a recording? As if!

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:15 pm

your analogy with the fender was re: recording etc....

you do know some libraries, for instance the older VOTA library from QL and a few others had limiations in use right? And some you can't use to make music library material...

edited out by me.
rsp

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:18 pm

zvenx wrote:Solitary man?
rsp

solitary fender

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:27 pm

zvenx wrote:your analogy with the fender was re: recording etc....

you do know some libraries, for instance the older VOTA library from QL and a few others had limiations in use right?
rsp

If they did they're not defensible.

With some googling, I see the controversy, http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/sho ... -agreement And yes, this is bullshit, they can't stipulate that. They can try, but it wouldn't hold up in court and then they'd be counter-sued.

And what do you mean by "commercial projects" and Breeze mean by "commercial context", if not "recordings"?

Breeze wrote:Wow! I get busy for a week and suddenly there's this 25 page thread...

Urs wrote: I don't recall an incidence before where someone in Hans Zimmer's position has made his original presets available.
Will purchasers of ZebraHZ be given license to use these sounds in a commercial context?

Reminds me of the guy who published a plug-in with the provision that it not be used to make devil music. (I can't seem to find it now, anybody remember it?)

Anyway, not to put words in Urs' mouth. But I'm sure the answer is "yes, of course you can".

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:28 pm

so maybe it wasn't such a stupid question after all eh?
rsp

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:41 pm

zvenx wrote:so maybe it wasn't such a stupid question after all eh?
rsp

I didn't say it was a stupid question, I said "silly". And again, it's the maker of VOTA who's stupid.

Correction... WAS stupid. It's been removed...

VOTA wrote: PLEASE NOTE: the restriction for using Voices of the Apocalypse for film trailers has been removed.

http://www.soundsonline.com/Symphonic-Choirs

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:47 pm

VOTA wrote: PLEASE NOTE: the restriction for using Voices of the Apocalypse for film trailers has been removed.

apocalipsick fun

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:48 pm

License agreement of the apocalypse.

"Blah blah blah... eternal soul... blah blah blah... first born..."

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:03 pm

hi, yes I know VOTA recently changed their licensing.

I think there are also some funny rules in the usage of newer BigFish Audio products

rsp

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:09 pm

zvenx wrote:Urs, someone asked and I may have missed your response or maybe you may have missed the question.
Basically he was asking if the HZ version and specifically its presets, allows us to use the license for commerical projects if we purchase the license from you?
rsp

Hehe, why on earth would we sell a patchlib if people weren't allowed to use it?

In reality there's no difference between private and commercial use.

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