Steinberg HALion 6 & HALion Sonic 3

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Sampleconstruct wrote:HALion 6 wavetable sound - re-synthesized/wave-tabled cello sample (flautato articulation) in two wavetable oscillators, OSC1 was edited on the Spectrum page to modify the harmonics and phases, OSC2 was left untouched.

Brilliant as always. Eh, I expect nothing less from you at this point.

Question: Cello sample. Internal built into HALion 6 or from an external source? If external, may I ask what sample library it came from?

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wagtunes wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:HALion 6 wavetable sound - re-synthesized/wave-tabled cello sample (flautato articulation) in two wavetable oscillators, OSC1 was edited on the Spectrum page to modify the harmonics and phases, OSC2 was left untouched.

Brilliant as always. Eh, I expect nothing less from you at this point.

Question: Cello sample. Internal built into HALion 6 or from an external source? If external, may I ask what sample library it came from?
Thank you - it's my own cello (bought on Ebay) played by myself, I bought it a while ago for producing a library for MachFive and keep on making new samples with it.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:HALion 6 wavetable sound - re-synthesized/wave-tabled cello sample (flautato articulation) in two wavetable oscillators, OSC1 was edited on the Spectrum page to modify the harmonics and phases, OSC2 was left untouched.

Brilliant as always. Eh, I expect nothing less from you at this point.

Question: Cello sample. Internal built into HALion 6 or from an external source? If external, may I ask what sample library it came from?
Thank you - it's my own cello (bought on Ebay) played by myself, I bought it a while ago for producing a library for MachFive and keep on making new samples with it.
Simon, do you actually play the cello? What other instruments besides keyboard do you play?

I'm in awe.

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I can't tell folks how awesome being able to sample in stand alone mode is!!!! I mean a sampler that can sample???? What will they think of next.
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wagtunes wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:HALion 6 wavetable sound - re-synthesized/wave-tabled cello sample (flautato articulation) in two wavetable oscillators, OSC1 was edited on the Spectrum page to modify the harmonics and phases, OSC2 was left untouched.

Brilliant as always. Eh, I expect nothing less from you at this point.

Question: Cello sample. Internal built into HALion 6 or from an external source? If external, may I ask what sample library it came from?
Thank you - it's my own cello (bought on Ebay) played by myself, I bought it a while ago for producing a library for MachFive and keep on making new samples with it.
Simon, do you actually play the cello? What other instruments besides keyboard do you play?

I'm in awe.
Well, I play cello tones and sample them, I can improvise a bit and produce a decent vibrato, get the flageolet thing going and play some other articulations too - but I don't actually play the cello, that would have taken many years to learn. I play soprano sax, picked it up again lately for a concert I had to do, now it's at the doctor's and gets a total refurb, can't wait to pick it up again - and I play many percussion instruments, used to be a drummer too in my teenager years, and I do a bit of guitar/harp/oud/psaltery, but also for sampling purposes only, not on any kind of professional level.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:HALion 6 wavetable sound - re-synthesized/wave-tabled cello sample (flautato articulation) in two wavetable oscillators, OSC1 was edited on the Spectrum page to modify the harmonics and phases, OSC2 was left untouched.

Brilliant as always. Eh, I expect nothing less from you at this point.

Question: Cello sample. Internal built into HALion 6 or from an external source? If external, may I ask what sample library it came from?
Thank you - it's my own cello (bought on Ebay) played by myself, I bought it a while ago for producing a library for MachFive and keep on making new samples with it.
Simon, do you actually play the cello? What other instruments besides keyboard do you play?

I'm in awe.
Well, I play cello tones and sample them, I can improvise a bit and produce a decent vibrato, get the flageolet thing going and play some other articulations too - but I don't actually play the cello, that would have taken many years to learn. I play soprano sax, picked it up again lately for a concert I had to do, now it's at the doctor's and gets a total refurb, can't wait to pick it up again - and I play many percussion instruments, used to be a drummer too in my teenager years, and I do a bit of guitar/harp/oud/psaltery, but also for sampling purposes only, not on any kind of professional level.
Thanks. Well, I don't want to monopolize the thread or send it too off topic but before I go, has their been any official word from Steinberg yet if HALion 6 is supported on Windows 7? I know it will work, but the last I looked, their specs don't support it and I don't want to have problems if I run into support issues with them telling me that Windows 7 isn't supported. I know they were revisiting this issue and was just wondering if a decision has been made yet.

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Officially it's not supported as far as I know, what I heard is that the Halion 6 engine utilizes some component which is not present in Windows 7 and they can't re-write the Halion 6 code so that that certain component would become obsolete.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:Officially it's not supported as far as I know, what I heard is that the Halion 6 engine utilizes some component which is not present in Windows 7 and they can't re-write the Halion 6 code so that that certain component would become obsolete.
Ah, okay. So I guess I won't be getting HALion 6 until I'm forced to upgrade to another OS.

Thanks for the info.

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SJ_Digriz wrote:I can't tell folks how awesome being able to sample in stand alone mode is!!!! I mean a sampler that can sample???? What will they think of next.
They will probably release a notation program which produces orchestral music and scores by itself, just select a style (e.g. cheesy, neo-romantic, Zimmer-like, John Adams, Steve Reich, Henze, Rihm, Schoenberg, Tschaikowsky, Stravinsky), then chose an orchestral instrumentation, success and fame factor, and BAM, hook up the printer, tie the score and the parts, hire an orchestra, easy...

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Sampleconstruct wrote:Officially it's not supported as far as I know, what I heard is that the Halion 6 engine utilizes some component which is not present in Windows 7 and they can't re-write the Halion 6 code so that that certain component would become obsolete.
This is some BS excuse and contradicts reports being made in here that Halion 6 actually works in Windows 7. :dog:

I was told the same years ago with Cubase 7... "we don't support <insert value>, because...". I was however also told via various support emails throughout the years "we support up to 3 OS versions back". Well, considering that Windows 10 is basically "the last Windows", unless Update Packs count like OSX as 10.x and the upcoming Windows April Update is technically being Windows 10.2 - then the last 3 OS versions go down to 8.1. So... a matter of interpretation for "support" It seems.

I only wait for the day, where there is a C9 .dot update (not paid "upgrade") that refuses to install on Windows 7. And I fear, this will happen with .0.15 or .0.20 if we look at what is currently happening with Halion 6 and Halion Sonic 3.

Like it actually happened with a previous version of Cubase as well (was it around v5 or v6, don't remember - too long ago) - at some point down the maintenance update road, the installer refused to even launch on WinXP (workaround back in the days: extract the installer, install each module individually), and Windows 8 wasn't even released yet.

I also fear the day of the .5 releases for CubEndo/Wavelab... and if they purposely break(!) former host versions. Which is an absolute no-no, considering what a huge jump from C6 it was to C7, and WL6 to WL7, or WL8 to WL9 (all of them had complete UI and function redesigns). And no day-1 demos for years!


If we agree with this stupid nonsense, and Steinberg sweeping the issue under the rug...
Yeah... we really had " so much say" with the last Steinberg survey...



SJ_Digriz wrote:I can't tell folks how awesome being able to sample in stand alone mode is!!!! I mean a sampler that can sample???? What will they think of next.
*gasp!*

Took them only 5 previous versions (since 2001, so 16 years!) to think up of that... :hihi:
Then again, Native Instrument is in close pursuit with Kontakt (first surfaced 2002 - so 15 years)...



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Compyfox wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:Officially it's not supported as far as I know, what I heard is that the Halion 6 engine utilizes some component which is not present in Windows 7 and they can't re-write the Halion 6 code so that that certain component would become obsolete.
This is some BS excuse and contradicts reports being made in here that Halion 6 actually works in Windows 7. :dog:
Apparently most features are supported but not all, inform yourself first maybe, then start ranting.

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It works if windows 7 is up to date with all updates.

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wagtunes wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:Officially it's not supported as far as I know, what I heard is that the Halion 6 engine utilizes some component which is not present in Windows 7 and they can't re-write the Halion 6 code so that that certain component would become obsolete.
Ah, okay. So I guess I won't be getting HALion 6 until I'm forced to upgrade to another OS.

Thanks for the info.
According to SB's official forum guy from almost a week ago, an official decision would be made and posted within a week. It should be coming out anytime now. I will be truly shocked if they don't end up supporting Win7. Their own "we only support the last two OS's" statement was completely contridicted by the recent release of C9 which support....Win7.

I'm hoping this is a case of they didn't have time to test it in Win7 and still get it out by release date and simply used this as a way to keep from being flooded by service requests if something was broken with it in Win7.
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Sampleconstruct wrote:
Compyfox wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:Officially it's not supported as far as I know, what I heard is that the Halion 6 engine utilizes some component which is not present in Windows 7 and they can't re-write the Halion 6 code so that that certain component would become obsolete.
This is some BS excuse and contradicts reports being made in here that Halion 6 actually works in Windows 7. :dog:
Apparently most features are supported but not all, inform yourself first maybe, then start ranting.
Any idea of which features are not supported?
I took the dive and already upgraded my 'bedroom studio' (W10) and am very much enjoying it. Will still be a couple days away from upgrading my (W7) studio though, and since it has to stay W7 to keep communicating to some hardware I have, it may indeed have to stay H5 (if support grants the original license as they said they might).

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BassMasterK wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:Officially it's not supported as far as I know, what I heard is that the Halion 6 engine utilizes some component which is not present in Windows 7 and they can't re-write the Halion 6 code so that that certain component would become obsolete.
Ah, okay. So I guess I won't be getting HALion 6 until I'm forced to upgrade to another OS.

Thanks for the info.
According to SB's official forum guy from almost a week ago, an official decision would be made and posted within a week. It should be coming out anytime now. I will be truly shocked if they don't end up supporting Win7. Their own "we only support the last two OS's" statement was completely contridicted by the recent release of C9 which support....Win7.
When did the say that? I mean that they only support 2 OS versions?

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