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phreaque · Post by **phreaque** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:01 am

Caine123 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:57 am why do you need to login for the PLANE to the account? strange that you need to do that for it. (another data collecting?)

No, but any AI based services requires an internet connection.

Gam456 · Post by **Gam456** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:03 am

The beta version has a free demo mode for 2048 presets per day
for those who have a license

free demo ? Do the AI require a subscription ?

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:12 am

phreaque wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:01 am
Caine123 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:57 am why do you need to login for the PLANE to the account? strange that you need to do that for it. (another data collecting?)
No, but any AI based services requires an internet connection.

aight somehow the AI needs to get feeded data from all users

lovely.... strange i dont need an internet connection for synplant 2 do i?

sure you dont need to use it, but it is very "STRANGE" that you need to login with your data for this option..... but yeah of course it is used for optimization, better user experiences and so so yeah im sure.

phreaque · Post by **phreaque** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:06 am

No, their system uses its own source to generate the presets, regardless of what presets the user has, they won't be involved in the process at all.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am

phreaque wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:06 am No, their system uses its own source to generate the presets, regardless of what presets the user has, they won't be involved in the process at all.

ahh ok, but why cant this module or whatever be offline in the installation folder?

phreaque · Post by **phreaque** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:30 am

Caine123 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am ahh ok, but why cant this module or whatever be offline in the installation folder?

It definitely requires a connection to their server to do the job. Just like how it goes with ChatGPT.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:37 am

phreaque wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:30 am
Caine123 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am ahh ok, but why cant this module or whatever be offline in the installation folder?
It definitely requires a connection to their server to do the job. Just like how it goes with ChatGPT.

i dont use this chatgpt crap, thx for the info.

Digivolt · Post by **Digivolt** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:49 am

The beta version has a free demo mode for 2048 presets per day

Well that sucks, I would like the option to generate unlimited presets using my own rig, not some server based model

Cyforce · Post by **Cyforce** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:24 am

For the average user, it might look like a really cool update I guess, but in the end, it will be somehow negative I think, if now (after Midjourney etc for artworks) AI tools will create synth presets basically for free in masses, less real people will create synth presets, since it will be become not sustainable (worktime vs income)... so the quality will go down.

What confuses me the most is that Spire is a widely used synth, but Reveal Sound is one of the few developers, that have a big preset store for their product, from which they also earn probably more than Spire itself. And now with the Spire AI, sure they can create presets in mass by themself, with no need to pay royalties, etc - but with that, oversaturating the market for Spire presets itself and doing more negative impact than positive... and also giving users an AI tool to create presets in a few mouse clicks (up to 128) - and give the user`s no need, to buy in their own preset store... weird logic business-wise I think.

No matter how "cool" or "time-saving" AI features or applications are - they will always lead to real people quitting...

EfreetiSultan · Post by **EfreetiSultan** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:26 am

Can someone explain the 2000 presets per day limitation please?
I haven't even created 2000 presets in my life let alone a day

Cyforce · Post by **Cyforce** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:30 am

EfreetiSultan wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:26 am Can someone explain the 2000 presets per day limitation please?
I haven't even created 2000 presets in my life let alone a day

Users without a license - 64 presets per day ...
Users with a valid Spire license - 2048 presets per day ...

... can be generated.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:36 am

EfreetiSultan · Post by **EfreetiSultan** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:46 am

Cyforce wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:30 am
EfreetiSultan wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:26 am Can someone explain the 2000 presets per day limitation please?
I haven't even created 2000 presets in my life let alone a day
Users without a license - 64 presets per day ...
Users with a valid Spire license - 2048 presets per day ...

... can be generated.

Hmm.. Oh no I can only generate 2000 presets per day whatever will I do

qtheerearranger · Post by **qtheerearranger** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:40 am

ive used my account info on plane and ive tried generating 20 presets twice and a single preset once and it hasnt worked. also have had some issues typing in the dnaq value. testing on logic pro 11

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:03 pm

Cyforce wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:24 am For the average user, it might look like a really cool update I guess, but in the end, it will be somehow negative I think, if now (after Midjourney etc for artworks) AI tools will create synth presets basically for free in masses, less real people will create synth presets, since it will be become not sustainable (worktime vs income)... so the quality will go down.

Let’s see how well it does first. If it’s like most other current-generation AI, it will do generic really well but fail to do much that’s interesting. I’d also expect it to not make good use of macro knobs or MIDI CC inputs.

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