Does anyone NOT like Diva?

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Jac459 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:08 pm
Examigan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:42 pm
billinder33 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:38 pm If I could change one thing about it, it would be a more flexible and modern modulation system. With Diva I usually find myself using Bitwigs modulators. Diva is the only synth I do this with, and I'd much prefer to do modulation directly inside the synth.
I still want to buy Mona for Diva. I plan on getting it this year (finally):
https://plugmon.jp/product/mona/#description
Are you aware of any sales ??? 34 for a skin, even if fantastic is way too much for me.
I think there was an intro sale when it was first released, AFAIK not after that.

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Jac459 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:08 pm
Examigan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:42 pm
billinder33 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:38 pm If I could change one thing about it, it would be a more flexible and modern modulation system. With Diva I usually find myself using Bitwigs modulators. Diva is the only synth I do this with, and I'd much prefer to do modulation directly inside the synth.
I still want to buy Mona for Diva. I plan on getting it this year (finally):
https://plugmon.jp/product/mona/#description
Are you aware of any sales ??? 34 for a skin, even if fantastic is way too much for me.
Plugmon makes the highest quality skins I've ever seen for any plug-in, and I've been messing around with music making applications and plug-ins since 1998.

Not only is MONA beautifully and expertly designed, it also enhances the user interface of Diva by making panels part of the main interface which are usually hidden behind alternate pages.

As an aside, generally this kind of knee-jerk reaction to the cost of something that a person has spent time and effort creating (to an extremely high quality) is depressing to me.

I'm a photographer, and I've experienced this kind of reaction first hand.

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Yeah, well who cares about photography. As George Carlin once said: "Doesn't anyone stop and just look at things anymore, and you know, remember them?" Not an exact quote, but you get the picture (ha!).

The way I see it, it's a non-essential of life, so the creator can charge what they want for it and the potential consumer can choose to buy it or not.

J/K about the photography bit btw. It is truly an art. When it deals with the female form anyway. And possibly Lamborghinis.
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oscillik wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:52 pm
Jac459 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:08 pm
Examigan wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:42 pm
billinder33 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:38 pm If I could change one thing about it, it would be a more flexible and modern modulation system. With Diva I usually find myself using Bitwigs modulators. Diva is the only synth I do this with, and I'd much prefer to do modulation directly inside the synth.
I still want to buy Mona for Diva. I plan on getting it this year (finally):
https://plugmon.jp/product/mona/#description
Are you aware of any sales ??? 34 for a skin, even if fantastic is way too much for me.
Plugmon makes the highest quality skins I've ever seen for any plug-in, and I've been messing around with music making applications and plug-ins since 1998.

Not only is MONA beautifully and expertly designed, it also enhances the user interface of Diva by making panels part of the main interface which are usually hidden behind alternate pages.

As an aside, generally this kind of knee-jerk reaction to the cost of something that a person has spent time and effort creating (to an extremely high quality) is depressing to me.

I'm a photographer, and I've experienced this kind of reaction first hand.
Not sure about photography lol but you nailed it on themes. There is only so much that you can pay for something that brings only quality of life to a vst, no new features.... Regardless of it's very high quality.

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I really do not like the layout of it and I do not feel inspired to use, but I do think it sounds good.

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oscillik wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:52 pm
As an aside, generally this kind of knee-jerk reaction to the cost of something that a person has spent time and effort creating (to an extremely high quality) is depressing to me.
Bit of an over reaction there sunshine. He just said it was way too much for him. He didn't say anything bad about the product. He may, like many people, have very limited finances.
How original

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I guess they missed that u-he sale of 50% off a while back. At that price they could probably afford it.

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Yeap that layout is a bit of a miss before one starts really studying it. Well, it still is after that but at least you know where to go :D
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Examigan wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 1:34 pm I guess they missed that u-he sale of 50% off a while back. At that price they could probably afford it.
There always seems to be someone selling a license on KVR for about the same price as the sale. If someone is motivated, it shouldn’t be too hard to get a good deal.
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Urs wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:00 pm (in reply to other posts, but related: We of course have also come to the conclusion that it might be good to add some more features/models at some point... and we might have just the thing... but it won't happen before we're happy with Zebra 3)
Hmmmmm… very interesting. Are you thinking these would be updates to DIVA, or is this perhaps a hint at DIVA2? 8)
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I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with Diva.

Sound & Features: generally love.

The way the Octave, Coarse, and Fine tune knobs work from a Learn perspective (where it's just one big control, and a center value of 64 leaves things out of tune)? Hate.

So I guess I only 95% love it and 5% hate it. Pretty good. ;)

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cryophonik wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:57 pm
Urs wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:00 pm (in reply to other posts, but related: We of course have also come to the conclusion that it might be good to add some more features/models at some point... and we might have just the thing... but it won't happen before we're happy with Zebra 3)
Hmmmmm… very interesting. Are you thinking these would be updates to DIVA, or is this perhaps a hint at DIVA2? 8)
Oh please God, Diva2! I feel like a new plugin is the only/best way to implement fixes for those Tune control annoyances I just posted above. But if that could be addressed in Diva (1) in a go-forward way only, that'd be cool too.

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cryophonik wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 3:57 pm
Urs wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:00 pm (in reply to other posts, but related: We of course have also come to the conclusion that it might be good to add some more features/models at some point... and we might have just the thing... but it won't happen before we're happy with Zebra 3)
Hmmmmm… very interesting. Are you thinking these would be updates to DIVA, or is this perhaps a hint at DIVA2? 8)
I'm not really sure about version numbers. As someone mentioned, Diva hadn't had feature updates to the synthesis section in quite some time. It's due, but right now we need to focus on Z3.

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I once bought a Diva licence, and sold it.

I think I never heard a sound made with Diva that I couldn't get with another synth, or if it's the case maybe a sound I don't care about. That's why. It appeared to me limited soundwise. By browsing the factory presets I mainly heard 70's and 80's inspired presets, so really nothing unheard I must say. I remember falling in love with one specific preset, a typical "sonar"-sounding one, that was really well programmed, and... that's all I remember from the presets actually.

Maybe if I had spent the time needed I could have obtained crazy sounds, I don't know, but I'm not really interested to know. I have plenty of crazy workstations such as Serum2, Avenger, Rapid, Falcon, that allow you to do much more things such as resynthesis, granular and multisample, so my Diva licence obviously deserved to go to someone who would give it more love than I could.

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Fannon wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 3:18 pm
billinder33 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:38 pm If I could change one thing about it, it would be a more flexible and modern modulation system. With Diva I usually find myself using Bitwigs modulators. Diva is the only synth I do this with, and I'd much prefer to do modulation directly inside the synth.
Yes, that would also be my #1 request. In Repro-5 they added two more "modern" modulation slots to it in the most recent update, now it has 4. Hoping for something similar in Diva!
I should check out Repro5 sometime. I heard it was a more 'aggressive' sounding synth than Diva and since I use Serum and Phaseplant a lot and for vintage sounds was worried there might be too much overlap. The one thing I like about Diva is it keeps me in that 'big warm analog' box.

What's different about the modulation from Diva? I looked at the screenshots on the u-he site, but couldn't really get a feel for it.

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