KVR Audio

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:51 pm

after using R6 for some day overall i enjoy but the best is to come..once the library will be full of R6 ensemble.. patching block is too much time consuming the workflow is not that great.. you have to go in the structure it's a pain compared to patching directly module like on a synth like bazille or a real modular(just think when you want to try a block, then a other one ect..it take lot of time to check the result of what you have in mind). the sound of the oscs and filters are better compared to R5 , to me it sounds like Ni/reaktor stuff but i like that caractere here and there in my music..it's a bit rought sounding with good depth.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:57 pm

I guess I'll be upgrading to the next Komplete Bundle if at least a Kontakt 6 will be included too.

Currently on Komplete 7

there was some talk in the advertising blurb on better maschine integration (with Reaktor 6) ...can anyone comment on this ?

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:40 pm

Liking blocks, particularly exposing Monark filter for easy patching. This would be a no-brainer for me, but for requiring Mavericks to run it. I can't support that, I would have to go through other changes I'm not going to do. I have a stable setup and this is not enough to spur me to chase the OS and add concerns I don't have now. This is where NI loses me, this is too much; I finally moved on up to 10.8.5 on both machines chasing Kontakt 5. OS 10.8 is, except for a coupla cute (& trivial) things, no improvement, it's a step down in performance for me.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:43 pm

Seems like you can still install it on 10.8 with some trickery.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:47 pm

Really? That would work for me. I was able to avoid moving from 10.6.8 for a long time with a couple of strategies. But they made that impossible after a point, seems like it was at Kontakt 5.3.1, Reaktor 5.9.2 where they did totally break the installer for 10.6 and changed the kernel. I'll have to look into it.

Winstontaneous · Post by **Winstontaneous** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:08 pm

IMO OSX 10.9 is worth it for native Multiple Tabs in Finder, incredibly helpful for me...

Money is tight but R6 upgrade is very tempting!

Apostate · Post by **Apostate** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:19 pm

Winstontaneous wrote:IMO OSX 10.9 is worth it for native Multiple Tabs in Finder, incredibly helpful for me...

Money is tight but R6 upgrade is very tempting!

I've already learned a bunch about synthesizers after purchasing the upgrade. I'm not sure I'll ever build a great, or even good one. But the things I'm learning have wide-spanning applicability.

But I can sympathize with those who want to wait for K11. For me, Ku10 was an excellent (if not devastatingly sensational) upgrade, and I was glad I waited on buying the new stuff before that one. But I must say, I find Reaktor 6 to really pay off, it's 99 dollars I feel I've already got back. Easily.

Just my opinion, and please understand that I've applied myself diligently to this synth post-purchase, hitting the tutorials hard. Especially ASDR, but there some other great ones on youtube as well.

loungepanda · Post by **loungepanda** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:22 pm

Speaking of Komplete, there's now an option for downloading the full bundle or update. Neat.

Teezdalien · Post by **Teezdalien** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:25 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Anyone know what the Paul filter is based on? It's described as modeled after early polyphonic analogs (even though it's under the modern section of modules which is weird).

Edit: Paul.. polyphonic analog... Prophet... duh.

I thought maybe the Synthesis Technology (Paul Schreiber) MOTM 440 filter, which is a beautiful analog filter btw. Just a guess though.

loachm · Post by **loachm** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:33 pm

Synthetic Wav wrote:patching block is too much time consuming the workflow is not that great.. you have to go in the structure it's a pain compared to patching directly module like on a synth like bazille or a real modular(just think when you want to try a block, then a other one ect..it take lot of time to check the result of what you have in mind).

...you may be right with some remarks here, but if look at it the other way around - how do you change a module in Bazille or Modular V or even in your hardware modular? It's not possible or requires to use your screwdriver. And do you really like that cable clutter (never understood why this has to be emulated, too)? I think, for what it does and considering the alternatives the block framework is very user-friendly...

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:05 am

So what's with the new sampler features? Any examples?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:06 am

loachm wrote:
Synthetic Wav wrote:patching block is too much time consuming the workflow is not that great.. you have to go in the structure it's a pain compared to patching directly module like on a synth like bazille or a real modular(just think when you want to try a block, then a other one ect..it take lot of time to check the result of what you have in mind).
...you may be right with some remarks here, but if look at it the other way around - how do you change a module in Bazille or Modular V or even in your hardware modular? It's not possible or requires to use your screwdriver. And do you really like that cable clutter (never understood why this has to be emulated, too)? I think, for what it does and considering the alternatives the block framework is very user-friendly...

I don't think it is a matter of emulating cables... it's that the cables work better for this circumstance... what other approach would you try if you were a developer?

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:45 am

zerocrossing wrote:
_leras wrote: Oh come on. Who really needs a demo for Reaktor.

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Me.

I'm wondering if I should update now or wait until K11. It all depends on what this thing sounds like using the blocks with feedback and modulating the filter at audio rates. If it handles those kind of things really well, I'll buy the update now, get a faster PC and 96khz machine to run it. If not that money's going to fund an SE80.

Does anyone have a demo that showcases these features? My dream is to find a synth that does great osc feedback and audio rate modulation. Diva, though good, isn't cutting it. Too polite.

The blocks do sound great from the demos.

If that isn't enough the 'factory' library is already pretty immense and covers many many bases. Synths, samplers, effects.

And then there is the user library which would take forever to through all the ensembles.

It does have a small learning curve, so *if* you think you want reaktor then the sooner you jump in the better. It's not what you'd get from fiddling with a demo, it's what you get several months later when more familiar with it.
* and that is not including getting into the really low level details, which would just take years...

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:18 am

pdxindy wrote:
loachm wrote:
Synthetic Wav wrote:patching block is too much time consuming the workflow is not that great.. you have to go in the structure it's a pain compared to patching directly module like on a synth like bazille or a real modular(just think when you want to try a block, then a other one ect..it take lot of time to check the result of what you have in mind).
...you may be right with some remarks here, but if look at it the other way around - how do you change a module in Bazille or Modular V or even in your hardware modular? It's not possible or requires to use your screwdriver. And do you really like that cable clutter (never understood why this has to be emulated, too)? I think, for what it does and considering the alternatives the block framework is very user-friendly...
I don't think it is a matter of emulating cables... it's that the cables work better for this circumstance... what other approach would you try if you were a developer?

yes i should add on a big screen it might be less of a issu, but here it s either the structure or the pannel..that won t stop me using it anyway just the workflow could maybe be improved.
i can't wait to try some newer ensemble that use these filters and oscs

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:38 pm

you have to try this guys, awesome for madness https://www.native-instruments.com/fr/r ... show/8837/

https://www.native-instruments.com/fr/r ... show/8831/

R6 is really a step forward , when you think it's just the begining it's gonna be huge

Native Instruments released Reaktor 6 !