Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession
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- KVRAF
- 2429 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Did the original OB-Xa have a mono-legato mode, and does the Synapse version?
A lot of people were pissed that Repro-5 is so 'accurate' that no mono legato mode is possible. You can set the synth to 1 voice, but envelopes always re-trigger on any and all new notes. Or you can turn on Unison and use the glide, but again, envelopes retrigger every time. The common response has been 'You want mono legato on this synth? The original didn't have it, and furthermore, this synth came with the Repro-1, which does have it, so stop whining and make your gliding mono legato Lead patch with that one" -- which admittedly is pretty damn good response, I must say
but it makes me curious about the upcoming Synapse OB-Xa and also the original, and what sort of control you do (or don't) have over the voices. Not sure what (if anything) can be answered but basically:
1. does it have a Mono Legato mode (notes played while another note is held do *not* retrigger envelopes)
2. does it have glide and if so, can glide be utilized legato-only (so it's not triggered on every note, but rather only on legato notes)
3. is there per-voice panning, like on most (actually, all) of the other oberheim emulations out there (and on Repro-5, too).
A lot of people were pissed that Repro-5 is so 'accurate' that no mono legato mode is possible. You can set the synth to 1 voice, but envelopes always re-trigger on any and all new notes. Or you can turn on Unison and use the glide, but again, envelopes retrigger every time. The common response has been 'You want mono legato on this synth? The original didn't have it, and furthermore, this synth came with the Repro-1, which does have it, so stop whining and make your gliding mono legato Lead patch with that one" -- which admittedly is pretty damn good response, I must say
but it makes me curious about the upcoming Synapse OB-Xa and also the original, and what sort of control you do (or don't) have over the voices. Not sure what (if anything) can be answered but basically:
1. does it have a Mono Legato mode (notes played while another note is held do *not* retrigger envelopes)
2. does it have glide and if so, can glide be utilized legato-only (so it's not triggered on every note, but rather only on legato notes)
3. is there per-voice panning, like on most (actually, all) of the other oberheim emulations out there (and on Repro-5, too).
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- Banned
- 3564 posts since 22 Aug, 2019
I have a hard time imagining a meaningful usage of modulating modulation source and targets. I think modulating makes sense when you stick within the same parameter so that calculations are dynamic but uninterrupted.mi-os wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 10:31 amDo you know why Synapse left mod sources/targets out? Has it something to do with too fast changing values when DAW automating causing click and pops or other problems ?Ingonator wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 8:01 am In the latest version of The Legend only the mod sources and destinations do not seem to have a Midi Learn feature while the mod amount knobs got it.
The polyphony knob has Midi Learn available.
I really would want that stuff in my diy hardware controller. I mean it must be possible, if i can do it with a mouse i should be able to remote control it.
I proposed kind of a hardware controller mode (use at your own risk) to u-he which is disabled at default and provides all missing (critical) parameters. I'm begging them for years to implement something like this.
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- KVRAF
- 22891 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Do we at least know if this is going to be 2020 or 2021 or even further down the road?
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- KVRAF
- 22891 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Well that would be really nice given how bored I am with this damn lockdown.e-crooner wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 pm When they are already making factory presets, the release can't be that far away, else new changes would screw up the presets. Maybe a month or two?
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- KVRAF
- 2429 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
I asked a legit question of the beta-testers above re: mono legato and voicing, but you instead choose to spend your time posting snarky, useless replies like this, which accomplish nothing more than making you look like a complete jackass. Well done. Richard must really have his hands full with you guys, no wonder this thing is taking a long time.
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- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
oh dear, tough day?mholloway wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:23 pmI asked a legit question of the beta-testers above re: mono legato and voicing, but you instead choose to spend your time posting snarky, useless replies like this, which accomplish nothing more than making you look like a complete jackass. Well done. Richard must really have his hands full with you guys, no wonder this thing is taking a long time.
i wasnt replying to you, so keep your nose out eh, there's a good boy.
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- KVRAF
- 22891 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Yes, you were replying to me and I had enough sense to just ignore your reply.AnX wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:26 pmoh dear, tough day?mholloway wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:23 pmI asked a legit question of the beta-testers above re: mono legato and voicing, but you instead choose to spend your time posting snarky, useless replies like this, which accomplish nothing more than making you look like a complete jackass. Well done. Richard must really have his hands full with you guys, no wonder this thing is taking a long time.
i wasnt replying to you, so keep your nose out eh, there's a good boy.
Have a nice day.
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- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
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- Banned
- 3564 posts since 22 Aug, 2019
By that time Trump will have ended the lockdown, anyway, dead or alivewagtunes wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:14 pmWell that would be really nice given how bored I am with this damn lockdown.e-crooner wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 6:13 pm When they are already making factory presets, the release can't be that far away, else new changes would screw up the presets. Maybe a month or two?
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- KVRAF
- 2429 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
And yet again, AnX decides "being a jackass toward other people is more important than a discussion of synthesizers in a music instrument forum", what a surprise.
God forbid I ask about the mono-legato abilities of a synthesizer in a forum dedicated to discussion of synthesizers, in a thread about an emulation of a specific analog synthesizer. What was I thinking!?
What is the point of this thread, then, if not to discuss the OB-Xa and its features, and how Synapse's emulation is shaping up? You could just post a google link in response to every single post in here... Oh, but right, that was about you showing us what a clever prick you are, not about anything synthesizer related. Carry on.
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- KVRian
- 759 posts since 13 Apr, 2017
To change them via MIDI controller like you would on any synth!? I'd implement a menu system for stuff like mod matrix in a pretty common way.e-crooner wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 5:45 pmI have a hard time imagining a meaningful usage of modulating modulation source and targets. I think modulating makes sense when you stick within the same parameter so that calculations are dynamic but uninterrupted.mi-os wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 10:31 amDo you know why Synapse left mod sources/targets out? Has it something to do with too fast changing values when DAW automating causing click and pops or other problems ?Ingonator wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 8:01 am In the latest version of The Legend only the mod sources and destinations do not seem to have a Midi Learn feature while the mod amount knobs got it.
The polyphony knob has Midi Learn available.
I really would want that stuff in my diy hardware controller. I mean it must be possible, if i can do it with a mouse i should be able to remote control it.
I proposed kind of a hardware controller mode (use at your own risk) to u-he which is disabled at default and provides all missing (critical) parameters. I'm begging them for years to implement something like this.