Where is Cubase 12.5 or 13? [Update: It's here C13 is released!]

[dionenoid]

Here's how to do directly record your vsti output :

- Go to the Export Audio Mixdown page.
- Select the channel that you want to record.
- Switch on 'Real-time Export'.

-> If you want to play live, switch off 'Deactivate External Midi inputs' (That option is greyed out when 'Real-time Export' is off).

-> If you just want to tweak settings or change presets while recording the output, simply leave the corresponding gui or gui's open.

- Hit 'Export'.

It's that simple.

Important : Cubase automatically makes the distinction between single channel or multiple channel selection when doing Real-time Export. So this only works when selecting one channel for Real-time export.

Notes : Pre-count and/or Click-track depends on your settings. All the other usual Export settings also apply.

I've just used this. It works. As it has been for the last 20 years or so.

[Scotty]

We know how to export. We want to have the file appear in an audio channel in real time without having to go to the export process. Exporting requires you to drag it back into the project. It works and I do this but it isn't what I am looking for. Direct routing to an audio channel is welcomed.

Here's how to do directly record your vsti output :

- Go to the Export Audio Mixdown page.
- Select the channel that you want to record.
- Switch on 'Real-time Export'.

-> If you want to play live, switch off 'Deactivate External Midi inputs' (That option is greyed out when 'Real-time Export' is off).

-> If you just want to tweak settings or change presets while recording the output, simply leave the corresponding gui or gui's open.

- Hit 'Export'.

It's that simple.

Important : Cubase automatically makes the distinction between single channel or multiple channel selection when doing Real-time Export. So this only works when selecting one channel for Real-time export.

Notes : Pre-count and/or Click-track depends on your settings. All the other usual Export settings also apply.

I've just used this. It works. As it has been for the last 20 years or so.

[PAK]

We know how to export. We want to have the file appear in an audio channel in real time without having to go to the export process. Exporting requires you to drag it back into the project. It works and I do this but it isn't what I am looking for. Direct routing to an audio channel is welcomed.

RME's Total Mix allows comprehensive routing of outputs to inputs. This makes it trivial both to route and record audio between apps, and even provide individual mixes to each of the inputs/outputs you route to. It's unfortunate that many so-called "pro" cards seem to have very limited (or even no) loopback functions these days.

With these functions you can do what's being asked (and beyond) in any app with input and output settings, including the most basic versions of Cubase.

[limitlesssss]

We know how to export. We want to have the file appear in an audio channel in real time without having to go to the export process. Exporting requires you to drag it back into the project. It works and I do this but it isn't what I am looking for. Direct routing to an audio channel is welcomed.

RME's Total Mix allows comprehensive routing of outputs to inputs. This makes it trivial both to route and record audio between apps, and even provide individual mixes to each of the inputs/outputs you route to. It's unfortunate that many so-called "pro" cards seem to have very limited (or even no) loopback functions these days.

With these functions you can do what's being asked (and beyond) in any app with input and output settings, including the most basic versions of Cubase.

Except (and correct me if I'm wrong), routing those outputs to inputs requires DA/AD conversion? Or is it all done digitally? If the answer is, it's all done digitally, then the “problem” is, it gives you 24-bit dithered signal, instead of Cubase's internal 32/64-Bit Floating Point signal. You may say who cares? Well clearly some do. I for one would rather stay at 64-Bit FP until the final export. Everything here is recorded at 64-Bit FP 96 kHz or 192 kHz.

[EnGee]

I remember that in Linux there is such solution for audio/midi routing among applications called Jack Server. It has a port in Wndows as well, so maybe this can help whoever interested:
https://jackaudio.org/

[PAK]

Except (and correct me if I'm wrong), routing those outputs to inputs requires DA/AD conversion? Or is it all done digitally? If the answer is, it's all done digitally, then the “problem” is, it gives you 24-bit dithered signal, instead of Cubase's internal 32/64-Bit Floating Point signal. You may say who cares? Well clearly some do. I for one would rather stay at 64-Bit FP until the final export. Everything here is recorded at 64-Bit FP 96 kHz or 192 kHz.

No, you're not wrong.. If it's able to route to those I/O then it's obviously converted to use them. In that case you're limited to what the device can support (In RME's case that's typically 192/24.. ).

An important additional thing to consider is, when people think of converters, nearly all of the colouration (in modern converters, at least) is actually coming from the supporting audio circuitry around them. As all the loopback is doing is mirroring the buffer it got, directly from the software, it's not touching all the parts that it would if you'd used a physical cable to send the signal back in.

So, in practice, what you get is a (very) clean signal. Clean, but as you obviously suspected by mentioning 64-bit float, not a 64-bit float copy. So not perfect for all circumstances and applications. But still a very handy thing to have

[dellboy]

We seem to have different opinions about what this new Cubase record feature is. Whatever it turns out to be, I hope that its like the simple feature that we already have in Studio One. There you can just right click an audio track and select any loaded VST, on any track, and the VST can be recorded in realtime. In practise the VSTs output is now a wave file just as if it was a hardware synth.

[chk071]

Here's how to do directly record your vsti output :

- Go to the Export Audio Mixdown page.
- Select the channel that you want to record.
- Switch on 'Real-time Export'.

-> If you want to play live, switch off 'Deactivate External Midi inputs' (That option is greyed out when 'Real-time Export' is off).

-> If you just want to tweak settings or change presets while recording the output, simply leave the corresponding gui or gui's open.

- Hit 'Export'.

It's that simple.

Doesn't sound exactly simple compared to creating an audio track, setting the instrument track as input, and hit record...

But, we don't really have to discuss this any further, do we? Obviously, Cubase 13 will allow for that kind of routing, which is great, as everyone else has it already.

[kritikon]

Not anywhere near studio currently, but IIRC only Pro does real time record. Reasonably sure Artist doesn't. Will be interesting to see if this is a universal Cubase feature in C13. Though I likely won't use it, it doesn't seem to be rocket science, so it has been an odd oversight.

[chk071]

Last time I tried them, recording a VSTi's output wasn't possible in - Cubase Artist, Elements, AI and LE. In Pro, it was only possible with the group bus trick at that time.

[dionenoid]

We know how to export. We want to have the file appear in an audio channel in real time without having to go to the export process. Exporting requires you to drag it back into the project. It works and I do this but it isn't what I am looking for. Direct routing to an audio channel is welcomed.

Then select 'Create New Audio Track' in the Export page.

[Scotty]

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[Scotty]

Read the comments where Jancivil and others have given examples where this process isn’t ideal. We know it works but a trip to the export modal dialog box isn’t what we’re looking for. No need to further dwell on this as the feature will be there for those of us who would like it. Apparently we aren't alone.

We know how to export. We want to have the file appear in an audio channel in real time without having to go to the export process. Exporting requires you to drag it back into the project. It works and I do this but it isn't what I am looking for. Direct routing to an audio channel is welcomed.

Then select 'Create New Audio Track' in the Export page.

[dellboy]

Read the comments where Jancivil and others have given examples where this process isn’t ideal. We know it works but a trip to the export modal dialog box isn’t what we’re looking for. No need to further dwell on this as the feature will be there for those of us who would like it. Apparently we aren't alone.

I have realtime recorded VSTs in Cubase Pro in the past with no problems. I mean playing the VST from a controller keyboard and watching the wave file being recorded in realtime. You end up with a wave file as if you had recorded a hardware synth. I think some of the others who have commented are thinking of mixdown or something else.

[Scotty]

I have as well after setting up routing through groups. Which is what I do now. Looking forward to the update so I don't have to jump through those hoops.

Read the comments where Jancivil and others have given examples where this process isn’t ideal. We know it works but a trip to the export modal dialog box isn’t what we’re looking for. No need to further dwell on this as the feature will be there for those of us who would like it. Apparently we aren't alone.

I have realtime recorded VSTs in Cubase Pro in the past with no problems. I mean playing the VST from a controller keyboard and watching the wave file being recorded in realtime. You end up with a wave file as if you had recorded a hardware synth. I think some of the others who have commented are thinking of mixdown or something else.