Studio One 7.2

[jamcat]

Studio one has arranger tracks and mixer channels. Just like a tape machine + console.

Just like every DAW since the 90's, many of which put a pan control (not just volume) in the arranger view.

No, I think you misunderstand. The Arranger and Mixer are decoupled. Tracks in the Arranger and channels in the Mixer exist independently of each other, the way a tape machine and mixing console exist independent of each other. So not like every DAW. So a pan on a Studio One audio track would make about as much sense as a pan on a tape machine.

[I_Am_Become_KVR]

No, I think you misunderstand. The Arranger and Mixer are decoupled. Tracks in the Arranger and channels in the Mixer exist independently of each other, the way a tape machine and mixing console exist independent of each other. So not like every DAW. So a pan on a Studio One audio track would make about as much sense as a pan on a tape machine.

And, yet, like every other daw, S1 has volume and pan slider controls (in other words mixing controls) on the arranger view 'tracks'. The pan is just hidden behind a gui design choice.

I can do any sort of routing I want in all of the major DAW's, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make in that regard.

Anyway, happy with the S1 switch overall. It's got some things it does faster and some things it does slower, like all the DAW's. My reasons for switching to it are that the ARA is handled a bit smoother in my testing, and the drum grid, piano roll, and notation are pretty fast like old skool DAWs (the latter 3 tend to be a bit clunky in most current DAW's). The automation lanes also react a bit more solidly to mouse interaction than some DAW's, without having to zoom in, and I spend a whole lotta time adjusting automation, so any small time save adds up fast there.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

And, yet, like every other daw, S1 has volume and pan slider controls (in other words mixing controls) on the arranger view 'tracks'. The pan is just hidden behind a gui design choice.

Would love to see a screenshot of your mysterious pan on any track on the main timeline (arrange) view.

VP

[trusampler]

I recently had to rebuild our main studio pc and a little heads up for anyone who does this, with a fresh install.If your like most professional studio daw setups you probably have created tons of settings for your midi controllers.
Understand this, Studio One does not allow us to import/export our controller settings. I was very disappointed when I reached out to hear this from Presonus tech support. Again you cannot simply import these midi controller settings, so if you're like us, and have created these complex midi controller setting setups, please make sure you're aware of this before a fresh install.

Here's their official reasoning why :

Hello trusampler,

Those things can't currently be copied from one computer to another due to MIDI hardware using unique UID's. Even thought the names you see are the same, the UID's will not be.

If you would like to make a feature request for Studio One to be added in a future release, we have a forum section specifically for Feature Requests.
http://answers.presonus.com/studio-one-feature-requests

So unlike Steinberg's Cubase ( midi remote ) where you indeed can import/export to new builds, Presonus developers have chosen in the what 15 or so years S1 has been around, to still NOT have a proper way to import our controller settings. To me this speaks volumes. Presonus really need to wake up and get serious about proper file management for their browsers, and proper import/export functions of midi controller data.

[I_Am_Become_KVR]

Would love to see a screenshot of your mysterious pan on any track on the main timeline (arrange) view.
VP

You see the volume slider on the tracks in the arrange view? Which by default duplicates the slider in the volume automation? The pan is the same way, it's just not shown twice like the volume is. These are by default linked to the same controls in the mixer view.

I asked if there was a setting somewhere to put the pan slider on the top level track panel, with the volume slider. The answer is no.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Understand this, Studio One does not allow us to import/export our controller settings.

Works for me. All settings are stored in a unique combo found here:

C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Presonus\Studio One 7

First the basic main devices are stored with a file called:

MusicDevices.settings

and the hard core minutia for each device hides in a folder called Surface Data (1)

I have a custom backup routine that backs up every possible critical bit of S1 data so when I rebuild the DAW and reinstall Studio One clean - I simply restore all my settings and S1 fires up like it thinks it's still on the old DAW.

Took me two weeks to create this and test it - but I can confirm that while I do not have 100 MIDI devices - I do have three and with my routine - there is no concept of recreating anything.

Finally - In defense of Presonus support - they are correct - there is no way to "import" device settings - but that does not mean there are not other ways to do this (that they logically might not know about and definitely won't support) - as this routine of mine is as DIY/Super Custom as it comes - but it works.

VP

[Vocalpoint Studios]

You see the volume slider on the tracks in the arrange view? Which by default duplicates the slider in the volume automation?

Is that what you think is going on?

Still do not see any pan control - with Automation or or off.

Again a screencap would be really helpful here as I believe you have set something specific in your setup - that no other user would ever do - and are calling it a pan control.

VP

[I_Am_Become_KVR]

You see the volume slider on the tracks in the arrange view? Which by default duplicates the slider in the volume automation?

Is that what you think is going on?

Still do not see any pan control - with Automation or or off.

Again a screencap would be really helpful here as I believe you have set something specific in your setup - that no other user would ever do - and are calling it a pan control.

VP

I do have a side gig of doing in depth personal tutorials on DAW concepts and operation, via Zoom(etc), for a reasonable fee, but you can also find free tutorial information out there for most any DAW. Good luck.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I'll be happy to give in depth personal tutorials on DAWW concepts and operation, for a reasonable fee, but you can also find free tutorial information out there for most any DAW. Good luck.

Judging by this exchange - I can only imagine what your tutorials and concept would be like.

No - I am good with using the mixer and my custom key commands/macros (not to mention 13 years of Studio One usage) for all my panning needs.

But I must admit - it is interesting with all your "in-depth knowledge" on DAWs - you still could not come up with a single screenshot.

VP

[I_Am_Become_KVR]

No - I am good with using the mixer and my custom key commands/macros and my 13 years of Studio One usage for all my panning needs.

But it is interesting that after all your grandstanding - you still could not come up with a screenshot.

VP

If you're too lazy to right click on your tracks, then I'm too lazy to send you screenshots of right clicking on tracks . Good luck on your journey dude, and take care.

[I_Am_Become_KVR]

It's just a matter of Studio One being designed for multi-track audio recording. I think that's pretty self-evident. Everything people complain about regarding Studio One has to do with it not being designed for pre-fab loop construction production.

I moved to Studio One because it is designed for the type of work I do, and it works brilliantly for it. I AM IN THE RIGHT PLACE. YOU ARE NOT. It's not designed for the way loop producers work. Clearly. Or they wouldn't be constantly whinging and whining. They really should just f*ck off and go to Bitwig or Ableton instead of trying to hijack a DAW that is clearly not for them.

I moved to S1 because it's a better MIDI sequencer than most.

But on the pattern subject, I always found it odd that anyone wants to hassle with splitting their sequences up into bloated lists of patterns, instead of just copy/pasting whatever notes wherever, if they need something to repeat.

[Bowsy]

Would love to see a screenshot of your mysterious pan on any track on the main timeline (arrange) view.
VP

You see the volume slider on the tracks in the arrange view? Which by default duplicates the slider in the volume automation? The pan is the same way, it's just not shown twice like the volume is. These are by default linked to the same controls in the mixer view.

I asked if there was a setting somewhere to put the pan slider on the top level track panel, with the volume slider. The answer is no.

Yeh you can't have more than one parameter on the track in view at any one time. If you select the track and hit A you can cycle the pan or any other parameter to show on track but only one at a time. It shows a parameter twice because S1 needs to cycle from the parameter list below per track via the command. It shows twice depending whats cycled in track view but it's actually the same parameter. Pic Below is as good as it gets to my knowledge.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Yeh you can't have more than one parameter on the track in view at any one time. If you select the track and hit A you can cycle the pan or any other parameter to show on track but only one at a time. It shows a parameter twice because S1 needs to cycle from the parameter list below per track via the command. It shows twice depending whats cycled in track view but it's actually the same parameter. Pic Below is as good as it gets to my knowledge.

Sure - I get that it "can" be set up - but that is work that I simply do not need - potentially LOTS of it - if a song has 60 tracks.

So regardless of all the messing around exposing/cycling automation parameters - someone still needs to explain to me how this saves any time whatsoever.

When I am mixing - it's F3 - adjust pan - F3 - done. In a matter of about 2-3 secs. Or even better - F4 for the whole session with the Inspector right there - doing it's thing. Practically no seconds.

Each to their own I guess - and that is what is so cool about S1. Many ways to do something.

VP

[Vocalpoint Studios]

On a different note - it has been exactly one year today since this dropped:



VP

[summer2000]

On a different note - it has been exactly one year today since this dropped:



VP

Nice, hopefully you got your money's worth. If not, learn from this when the next paid upgrade drops. I'm still on version 6 which I rarely use. I chose rather to wait and see if Presonus would actually deliver on those 3 to 4 major updates they mentioned a year ago. In my opinion, they did not follow through with anything major or significant to deserve my money.

Personally I'm looking forward to the release of Cubase Pro/Nuendo 15 and Bitwig Pro 6.