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ELEX wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:21 pm
tickytock wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:03 pm My first impression of the Noise Engineering plugins Virt Vireor and Sinc Vireor is that many of the presets simply don't work. And the sounds I do hear are thin and not all that intriguing. Haven't yet tried creating sounds, but I'm not finding a compelling need to try. Some work needed here. I'm using Logic 10.6.3 on Mac OS 11.5.1, on an Intel MacBook. I don't recommend these (yet) for an OSC.
Don't forget the 'filter mix' parameter ! Also, lots of presets use HP and BP filters on waves that are of the hollow sounding variety to begin with. And they are velocity sensitive to a fault. Must admit though, that I tend to enjoy the results of OSC rounds that start off with feeling like "Oh no ! Not this synth ! " These would definitely be in that category.
Thanks for your suggestions. I'll give these more of a try.

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tickytock wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:39 pm My congratulations also on Whispair. And also to GR-8. I hope both are featured in future OSCs. Nettle seemed less fully functional, but also intriguing.
NOTE: GR-8 is synthedit and therefore only Audio Unit on macOS, not VST. This makes it unavailable to certain hosts on macOS (at least Bitwig).

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z.prime wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:17 pm
tickytock wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:39 pm My congratulations also on Whispair. And also to GR-8. I hope both are featured in future OSCs. Nettle seemed less fully functional, but also intriguing.
NOTE: GR-8 is synthedit and therefore only Audio Unit on macOS, not VST. This makes it unavailable to certain hosts on macOS (at least Bitwig).
That's a shame about GR-8. It sure sounds good. Maybe the creator will expand options?

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tickytock wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:37 am
z.prime wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:17 pmNOTE: GR-8 is synthedit and therefore only Audio Unit on macOS, not VST. This makes it unavailable to certain hosts on macOS (at least Bitwig).
That's a shame about GR-8. It sure sounds good. Maybe the creator will expand options?
The GR-8 dev is hamstringed by synthedit here. It doesn't seem like there are plans for synthedit to support cross-platform VST/VST3 anytime soon as far as I know. I did load up GR-8 in an AU host and agree it does sound surprisingly good. This was not the latest version but the CPU usage was insanely high... higher than u-he Diva, which is already crazy high! Apparently there are some improvements in the most recent version.

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z.prime wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:14 am
tickytock wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:37 am
z.prime wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:17 pmNOTE: GR-8 is synthedit and therefore only Audio Unit on macOS, not VST. This makes it unavailable to certain hosts on macOS (at least Bitwig).
That's a shame about GR-8. It sure sounds good. Maybe the creator will expand options?
The GR-8 dev is hamstringed by synthedit here. It doesn't seem like there are plans for synthedit to support cross-platform VST/VST3 anytime soon as far as I know. I did load up GR-8 in an AU host and agree it does sound surprisingly good. This was not the latest version but the CPU usage was insanely high... higher than u-he Diva, which is already crazy high! Apparently there are some improvements in the most recent version.
I'm puzzled. Others in a thread about GR-8 in the KVR Challenger Challenge section claim GR-8 actually is available as a VST. I agree that GR-8 is CPU hungry, but it's worth it. It would be great for an OSC.

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tickytock wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:49 pmI'm puzzled. Others in a thread about GR-8 in the KVR Challenger Challenge section claim GR-8 actually is available as a VST. I agree that GR-8 is CPU hungry, but it's worth it. It would be great for an OSC.
Synthedit is available only as: VST on Windows (recent version supports VST3 64-bit) and 64-bit AU on macOS. I don't really know why this decision was made, but that's what synthedit users are stuck with.

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Monica 3 by Fanan Team Pro. I like the look of this freeware synth. (on paper, haven't tried it).

Fanan Team Pro releases Monica 3, a freeware dual-layered 90’s style synth VST plugin (64-bit VST2/VST3) for Windows.
Before Monica 3, Fanan Team Pro released Monica, then Monica Evo. Monica 3 is a dual-layered synth featuring two high dynamic range oscillators.
The structure of having two contrasting oscillators has remained from Monica Evo. Oscillator one is wavetable based with 50 wavetables and an additional 50 wavetables for morphing. Oscillator two is a retro eight waveforms pad oscillator capable of creating classic 90’s pads.
Thinking of 90’s pads brings to mind the Korg M1 and Roland JV-1080, Jungle/House music, and airy strings.
The most notable oscillator difference from Monica 3 to Evo comes in oscillator two. Monica Evo was designed to emulate 90’s mono synths, whereas Monica 3 focuses on massive 90’s pads.
Each oscillator has its own chord-driven pattern sequencer. The sequencer is a 16-step arpeggiator with various tweaking options. You can adjust the time signature, gate, speed, DAW syncing, and step count ( up to sixteen). Playing with the time signature could be pretty cool for creating moving/evolving pads.
Where Monica 3 starts to pull away from Monica Evo is in the modulation options. There are six LFOs, three per oscillator, with 50 wavetables and BPM sync.
You also have MIDI-Clock Motorized Modulation (MMM), which allows you to create interesting motion through effects.

EDIT Windows only so probably no good for OSC. Ignore me!

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As we've been doing a bunch of Full Bucket stuff lately, I can't imagine we'll be rushing right into Whispair, but I hope we do it at some point anyway, it looks like a cracking good synth what ho?

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Also, I wanted to say I dig the revised OSC site at https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/home
I love that the challenges are divided by year.

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gorgorgathgorgorgor wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:53 pm Also, I wanted to say I dig the revised OSC site at https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/home
I love that the challenges are divided by year.
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Hey guys, thanks :)
All feedback is welcome. Am trying to bring the site up to date.
- playlists are now up for every challenge on the site!

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RichardSemper wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:16 pm Hey guys, thanks :)
All feedback is welcome. Am trying to bring the site up to date.
- playlists are now up for every challenge on the site!
Holy moly! That's awesome work, Richard and Brian! :)

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:tu: Thank you, beautiful!

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RichardSemper wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:16 pm Hey guys, thanks :)
All feedback is welcome. Am trying to bring the site up to date.
- playlists are now up for every challenge on the site!
Excellent work! And it's great to see all the playlists up there - it's quite the legacy, with what must be thousands of tracks by now.
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