Spire Synthesizer

[zerocrossing]

I still don't see…

This is my biggest issue with you. Your inability to see value in anything that doesn’t benefit you is a major weakness, and must limit your potential to experience life. I don’t like modular systems, drum machines, hell, I don’t even like pitch and mod wheels, but I understand why people love them, and appreciate the art made by tools that are of zero interest to me.

[kv331]

Synthmaster is more usable, but it also suffers from doing too many things and none of them particularly well.

Like what? Can you please give an example to your argument?

Thx

[classic]

Synthmaster is more usable, but it also suffers from doing too many things and none of them particularly well.

Like what? Can you please give an example to your argument?

Thx

Just don´t listen to him, really.
Its not worth the efford to talk about that stu........statement.
This synth is just great.

[Hyperbole]

It is, though lack of polyphonic aftertouch and MPE limits its use in my world.

What, you need MPE to make a bassline? Seriously? I still don't see the value of MPE, it's the five dimensions of touch that get the job done for me and you don't need MPE for that.

I don't get it when someone says that the lack of MPE functionality is a "dealbreaker" for them. Really? What on earth did they do before MPE?

But then again, I don't own an MPE controller. So maybe there is a world of expression that I am missing. I'm old enough to remember synths without velocity sensitivity and which also had no ability to record knob movements as Continuous Controllers. I guess I'm just grateful to be able to record velocity, pressure (only occasionally,) and knob movements on my synths. Between that and all the movement I program into the patches themselves, I'm not lacking for dynamic, evolving sounds (that admittedly don't evolve differently on a per-note basis). I don't know how much MPE would add to that.

[JesusSaves69]

one of the best synths out there

[BONES]

MPE is the next level of expression. Like the velocity and AT.
You can have a fulltouch keyboard like the Polybrute, vibrato per note, pitch per note.

I know what it is, I currently own 8 MPE controllers. It's just that I don't see the actual MPE side of it as in any way useful, beyond one or two very, very specific use-cases, all of which have fairly simple workarounds if you really want to achieve those things, like keyboard splits. In every demo video I have ever watched of someone using an MPE controller, mostly Roli stuff, I have only once seen anyone actually use MPE to any great effect.

As I said, the thing that works for me is the dimensions of touch, which allow for very expressive performance, one-handed. But I don't need that on every instrument I own. For something like a sequenced bassline, which are mostly monophonic, MPE is utterly useless. Having a couple of synths that are MPE aware is all I need and I can't understand anyone having MPE as a must-have for every synth in their collection. It excludes way too many perfectly wonderful instruments.

This is my biggest issue with you. Your inability to see value in anything that doesn’t benefit you

So illuminate me. Explain to me why you have to have MPE in every, single instrument because it makes less than zero sense to me and every time I ask this simple question, I get responses like this. I ask questions in the (forlorn) hope of getting answers, of making sense of things, not to tick you off.

I don’t even like pitch and mod wheels

There you go, that's a big clue, right there. To me, mod and pitch-bend wheels are as much a natural part of playing a synth as the keys. They've always been there and I've always used them. A lot of the factory patches on Analog Keys use them to incredible effect. The extra dimensions of touch are, for me, a natural extension of that, where MPE is kind of answering a question I would never have needed to ask.

So is it a guitarist thing? Does MPE make more sense to a guitarist than a keyboard player? Or is it something else? e.g. How much experience do you have playing multiple keyboards simultaneously? Because I had to do that for years, so maybe it's just more natural for me to think of solutions like that - play chords on one keyboard with one hand while doing lead/solo work on another keyboard with the other, that kind of thing.

But then again, I don't own an MPE controller. So maybe there is a world of expression that I am missing.

Yes, there is, but my point is that it's not actually MPE that offers 99% of that extra expression, it's the other features that MPE controllers invariably have - the extra "dimensions of touch". Things like the ability to wobble your finger on a key to get vibrato or slide your finger up the key to open the filter. I find the latter no more useful than a Mod Wheel but the former feels so natural that you do it without thinking. I imagine, though, that there will be a generation of people who grow up with MPE who will find it all as natural as you or I find using the Mod Wheel.

[swilow11]

When I have an issue with someone or something, I don't respond in a feeble, spineless, passive-aggressive manner. I address the issue head-on like a man.

No matter how you slice it, you're still just ranting about a synthesiser though.

[Hyperbole]

By the way I won't be answering you anymore.

I hope you are indeed a man of your word.

[Spring Goose]

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[iPlogger]

Spire is one of my main go-to synths. Love it. Use it all the time. Fun and easy to use. Recommend it all the time. I'd be happy with sample/wavetable import. I'd even be thrilled if they added some new waveforms. But still extremely pleased with what we have no matter what the future holds.

[Touch The Universe]

NM

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[_leras]

I've been looking for something to replace expansion Strobe, as it is buggy in Bitwig and end of life with no updates.

I just picked up Spire (a vid in the arturia jp 8000 was the trigger) and kinda wish I had done so sooner. I knew it sounded pretty good, but actually playing with it it sounds better.

Im fine with the general simplicity of the synth, but I do hope they are planning a version 2 or some ui updates. It's seems more a UI for preset users than sound creators.

it could do with a drag and drop modulation system, and some other UI tweaks as it definitely feels a bit clunky. it's so simple they could probably squeeze all 4 oscs, and the FX etc onto the front page.

I'm not going to hold my breath though, seems there haven't been many feature updates for some time. I'll just use it as something to grab when I want some particular simple sound types as the sound does still hold up very well.

[Gam456]

Im fine with the general simplicity of the synth

4 osc, 15x4 with 2 sources mod matrix slot, 4 envelope, 4 lfo, 2 step lfo
That''s not the definition of simplicity