Official Serum 2 thread!

[HOTF]

Version 2.0.17 is live :
Serum 2.0.17 2025-04-23

- Added Key Track option to Filter and Distortion FX freq right-click menus

- Added keyboard shortcut Alt/Option + F to toggle FX and Matrix expanded view

- Added support for sample filenames with root notes containing 'b' (flat)

- Added text input for Osc Mapping Editor

- Added warning about plug-in state not getting saved on opening a DAW session created with the demo version

- Added workaround for incorrect VST3 note ID on note off when sustain pedal held in Cubase/Nuendo on Windows

- Added workaround for incorrect VST3 note IDs in Reason 12 and below

- Changed Ctrl/Cmd + F keyboard shortcut for browser search now only works if browser visible

- Changed loop crossfade length to automatically scale so crossfade never starts outside sample bounds

- Changed Porta Time readout to show 1dp in range [0ms, 10ms)

- Changed sustain pedal behaviour so that re-triggering a note that is already sustained will kill the first note

- Fixed Ableton Live automation stopping when adding FX modules or making FX params automatable

- Fixed Arp and Clip Player not playing back in negative bars

- Fixed Arp missing step when triggering pattern while notes are held

- Fixed automatable params resetting on starting playback in Pro Tools

- Fixed clamping of sub osc phase modulated phase when set to 360 and wrap phase disabled

- Fixed clip playback start position not respecting offset marker when playback mode set to Static

- Fixed conditions for testing whether osc warp render is allowed

- Fixed Conv reverb IR size when session sample rate does not match IR sample rate

- Fixed crash when double-clicking some areas of Osc Mapping Editor

- Fixed crash when pasting a Macro that modulates params in FX that were deleted

- Fixed crash when previewing some presets

- Fixed crash when using sustain pedal with mono enabled

- Fixed crash when using WT Editor Interpolation tools (dashed line / curve)

- Fixed crash when WT import with Dynamic Pitch fails

- Fixed Distortion filter freq not adjusting with global tuning

- Fixed Distortion filter freq not matching up with displayed value

- Fixed excessive CPU usage when adjusting or modulating Conv Size

- Fixed file drag & drop from Ableton Live & Bitwig on Windows with High DPI scaling

- Fixed file drag & drop from FL Studio Edison plugin

- Fixed file drag & drop from Studio One on Windows

- Fixed filter type not locking when module locked

- Fixed FX racks sometimes failing to output delayed audio

- Fixed global tuning value displaying incorrectly after loading a preset if tuning locked

- Fixed hall reverb sweeping size on restarting playback if clear FX buffers on stop enabled

- Fixed handling of Arp Rate modulation when shape set to something other than Pattern

- Fixed incorrect note labelling in Arp pattern editor

- Fixed item in Wavetables submenu getting checked in sample menu when sample loaded

- Fixed LFO jumping value on deallocating voice if mono enabled

- Fixed LFO not advancing in BPM Anchored mode in negative bars

- Fixed LFO phase not advancing when assigned to non-per-voice param and anchor enabled and no notes triggered

- Fixed loading S1 LFO .shp files

- Fixed loading S1 presets where filter level is assigned as a mod dest

- Fixed missing warp var controls on Granular Osc

- Fixed mod wheel appearing twice in list of automatable parameters

- Fixed mod wheel smoothing

- Fixed modulations not restored when undoing Cut FX Bus

- Fixed MPE Y to Mod Wheel assignment

- Fixed MPE Y value offset

- Fixed noise draw in Wavetable Editor using previous subtable shape

- Fixed note expression smoothing not updating to final value

- Fixed note occasionally sticking when using sustain pedal

- Fixed pitch bend being recorded as both MIDI and automation simultaneously in Logic

- Fixed pitch changes if loop points changed during loop crossfade

- Fixed Preset Database Missing or Corrupt errors after locating a moved Serum 2 Presets folder

- Fixed Preset Pack creation for Wavetables with associated text files

- Fixed rendering osc warp when using sync mode

- Fixed retriggering envs, LFOs and noise osc when mono enabled or poly count 1 and stealing active voice

- Fixed Sample Osc filling FFT buffer from wrong end of sample when changing direction in Fwd/Rev loop mode

- Fixed scaling of modulation applied to chaos free rate when importing Serum 1 presets

- Fixed scaling of modulation applied to FX filter frequency when loading Serum 1 presets

- Fixed Serum 2 FX failing to open in FL Studio with custom User Data Folder location

- Fixed Spectral Osc not respecting modulated loop marker positions

- Fixed unexpected FX bus send when modulated level is below 0

- Fixed velocity markers in notes not updating in real time when editing velocity in piano roll

- Fixed Wavetables not loading correctly from presets or sessions when using anything other than Dynamic Pitch - Zero Snap

- Fixed Wavetables not saving correctly in hybridized presets

- Fixed WT Remap Warp drawing incorrectly in slot 2

- Fixed WT Start Phases not restoring after undoing back to Per Voice mode

- Improved compatibility with FL Studio 25 Beta

- Improved compatibility with Studio One

- Improved CPU usage spikes in Conv reverb

- Improved usability of FX rack right-click menu

[aMUSEd]

Also fixes the upside down GUI in Maschine 3

[adl]

Holy... Somebody has been busy

[Caine123]

i tested when you move your original imported samples, beware! Serum 2 doesnt show the original sample location but only the filename. will report this as this can issue problems if you dont embed and move your samples some time.
TAL Sampler etc. show you the old locations.

[enCiphered]

Version 2.0.17 is live :
Serum 2.0.17 2025-04-23

- Added Key Track option to Filter and Distortion FX freq right-click menus

- Added keyboard shortcut Alt/Option + F to toggle FX and Matrix expanded view

- Added support for sample filenames with root notes containing 'b' (flat)

- Added text input for Osc Mapping Editor

- Added warning about plug-in state not getting saved on opening a DAW session created with the demo version

- Added workaround for incorrect VST3 note ID on note off when sustain pedal held in Cubase/Nuendo on Windows

- Added workaround for incorrect VST3 note IDs in Reason 12 and below

- Changed Ctrl/Cmd + F keyboard shortcut for browser search now only works if browser visible

- Changed loop crossfade length to automatically scale so crossfade never starts outside sample bounds

- Changed Porta Time readout to show 1dp in range [0ms, 10ms)

- Changed sustain pedal behaviour so that re-triggering a note that is already sustained will kill the first note

- Fixed Ableton Live automation stopping when adding FX modules or making FX params automatable

- Fixed Arp and Clip Player not playing back in negative bars

- Fixed Arp missing step when triggering pattern while notes are held

- Fixed automatable params resetting on starting playback in Pro Tools

- Fixed clamping of sub osc phase modulated phase when set to 360 and wrap phase disabled

- Fixed clip playback start position not respecting offset marker when playback mode set to Static

- Fixed conditions for testing whether osc warp render is allowed

- Fixed Conv reverb IR size when session sample rate does not match IR sample rate

- Fixed crash when double-clicking some areas of Osc Mapping Editor

- Fixed crash when pasting a Macro that modulates params in FX that were deleted

- Fixed crash when previewing some presets

- Fixed crash when using sustain pedal with mono enabled

- Fixed crash when using WT Editor Interpolation tools (dashed line / curve)

- Fixed crash when WT import with Dynamic Pitch fails

- Fixed Distortion filter freq not adjusting with global tuning

- Fixed Distortion filter freq not matching up with displayed value

- Fixed excessive CPU usage when adjusting or modulating Conv Size

- Fixed file drag & drop from Ableton Live & Bitwig on Windows with High DPI scaling

- Fixed file drag & drop from FL Studio Edison plugin

- Fixed file drag & drop from Studio One on Windows

- Fixed filter type not locking when module locked

- Fixed FX racks sometimes failing to output delayed audio

- Fixed global tuning value displaying incorrectly after loading a preset if tuning locked

- Fixed hall reverb sweeping size on restarting playback if clear FX buffers on stop enabled

- Fixed handling of Arp Rate modulation when shape set to something other than Pattern

- Fixed incorrect note labelling in Arp pattern editor

- Fixed item in Wavetables submenu getting checked in sample menu when sample loaded

- Fixed LFO jumping value on deallocating voice if mono enabled

- Fixed LFO not advancing in BPM Anchored mode in negative bars

- Fixed LFO phase not advancing when assigned to non-per-voice param and anchor enabled and no notes triggered

- Fixed loading S1 LFO .shp files

- Fixed loading S1 presets where filter level is assigned as a mod dest

- Fixed missing warp var controls on Granular Osc

- Fixed mod wheel appearing twice in list of automatable parameters

- Fixed mod wheel smoothing

- Fixed modulations not restored when undoing Cut FX Bus

- Fixed MPE Y to Mod Wheel assignment

- Fixed MPE Y value offset

- Fixed noise draw in Wavetable Editor using previous subtable shape

- Fixed note expression smoothing not updating to final value

- Fixed note occasionally sticking when using sustain pedal

- Fixed pitch bend being recorded as both MIDI and automation simultaneously in Logic

- Fixed pitch changes if loop points changed during loop crossfade

- Fixed Preset Database Missing or Corrupt errors after locating a moved Serum 2 Presets folder

- Fixed Preset Pack creation for Wavetables with associated text files

- Fixed rendering osc warp when using sync mode

- Fixed retriggering envs, LFOs and noise osc when mono enabled or poly count 1 and stealing active voice

- Fixed Sample Osc filling FFT buffer from wrong end of sample when changing direction in Fwd/Rev loop mode

- Fixed scaling of modulation applied to chaos free rate when importing Serum 1 presets

- Fixed scaling of modulation applied to FX filter frequency when loading Serum 1 presets

- Fixed Serum 2 FX failing to open in FL Studio with custom User Data Folder location

- Fixed Spectral Osc not respecting modulated loop marker positions

- Fixed unexpected FX bus send when modulated level is below 0

- Fixed velocity markers in notes not updating in real time when editing velocity in piano roll

- Fixed Wavetables not loading correctly from presets or sessions when using anything other than Dynamic Pitch - Zero Snap

- Fixed Wavetables not saving correctly in hybridized presets

- Fixed WT Remap Warp drawing incorrectly in slot 2

- Fixed WT Start Phases not restoring after undoing back to Per Voice mode

- Improved compatibility with FL Studio 25 Beta

- Improved compatibility with Studio One

- Improved CPU usage spikes in Conv reverb

- Improved usability of FX rack right-click menu

Impressive update. Thank you, Steve and everyone involved

[sempondr]

Impressive update. Thank you, Steve and everyone involved

In case you didn't know:
You can edit quoted message so it won't take up three pages.

[chagzuki]

I gather Serum never went on sale, and that makes the intro price window for this seem like a one-off. However, it's not a ground-breaking product any more, and the standard price of $249 look a little unrealistic in today's market. $189 is a stretch for me, and I'm wondering whether to just get it on the basis that there's probably a lot of good free presets around for version 1. I certainly wouldn't be paying the full price, so this would appear the only time I might get to own it...I'm not sure I can justify it.

[sempondr]

...I'm not sure I can justify it...

You will also get free updates for life.

[tumface]

I gather Serum never went on sale, and that makes the intro price window for this seem like a one-off. However, it's not a ground-breaking product any more, and the standard price of $249 look a little unrealistic in today's market. $189 is a stretch for me, and I'm wondering whether to just get it on the basis that there's probably a lot of good free presets around for version 1. I certainly wouldn't be paying the full price, so this would appear the only time I might get to own it...I'm not sure I can justify it.

Serum 2 is not Serum 1 with an extra oscillator and filter. It does a lot of new stuff that is not obvious just from looking at screenshots. Things that are rare to see in synthesizers, especially ones with an interface as easy to use as Serum. Multiple types of FM and PM. Cross-feedback audio rate modulation. Freely routable audio rate modulation of filters. Audio rate modulation using the output of a filter to something else. New component modeled filters. Oscillators in sampler mode can do slicing. Spectral oscillators can also do slicing. I could go on.

[enCiphered]

I gather Serum never went on sale, and that makes the intro price window for this seem like a one-off. However, it's not a ground-breaking product any more, and the standard price of $249 look a little unrealistic in today's market. $189 is a stretch for me, and I'm wondering whether to just get it on the basis that there's probably a lot of good free presets around for version 1. I certainly wouldn't be paying the full price, so this would appear the only time I might get to own it...I'm not sure I can justify it.

If you are thinking about getting Serum 2 to use the ocean of presets out there and the ones that will come in the future, I can guarantee you will never really feel that the price is justified. This synth is built for creativity. The real magic happens when you start programming your own sounds. It is insanely fun, intuitive, and powerful in a way that keeps surprising you the more you use it.
Once you spend even a little time with it, you will realize it is easily one of the best investments you can make in your music. Serum 2 is not just an update, it is a full evolution of an already industry-leading synth. It nails Everything!
The interface alone is a masterpiece. Nothing comes even close.
Its honestly in a league of its own and the price is completely worth it.

[Sinisterbr]

It really looks like an incredible synth, but maybe it's a little too late to the party for some people? I already own (and love) some of its nearest competitors. $249 is too steep for me as well, I can't justify it these days.

[sempondr]

Version 2.0.18 is out
2025-04-26
Release Notes
- Fixed "Revert to Saved" greyed out after loading a session
- Fixed Conv IRs sounding wrong after adjusting parameters
- Fixed Crash when Hybridizing some presets
- Fixed inconsistent modulation output for sources routed to a mix of per-voice and non-per-voice params
- Fixed Pitch Bend smoothing
- Fixed 2.0.17 Parameter Automation recall of effect parameters offset by one index after project reload

[Morty-C-137]

After my initial knee-jerk response over some of the workflows I was not used to or perhaps would have liked differently I am fully enamored by Serum now and so I bought it this week after playing around with the demo and getting to know it for 4-5 weeks.

I just kept coming up with fun things every time and liked the sounds I got a lot. There are still a few things I would like to see workflow wise though. Small improvements.

Edit: plus Serum FX is a huge bonus! To me the fx sound great and we can use a lot of instances of each. Nice go-2 FX rack with cool modulation options. Only thing I am missing there is perhaps an audio follower modulation that we can apply to any parameter that responds to the incoming audio.

[vitocorleone123]

Struggling with MPE and Serum2 in Studio One 7 with my new Roli M.
Other synths just work (e.g., Vital is easier to use MPE with... even my hardware synths are easier).

[cb8rwh]

When you say you are struggling with MPE, what aspect, or is it just not working at all?