One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

[phankiejankie303]

Speaking of Audio Damage: Basic would be a nice OSC synth. Phosphor also, but 32-bit only, so not suitable, I suspect.

I think that an "Audio Damage freeware plug-ins only" round would be highly interesting. They pretty much have everything in their arsenal.

Maybe allow the use of DAW EQ and a bit more flexibility on the mastering chain but mastering with Rough Rider would be a lot (destructive) fun!

But yeah there is also the Mac problem .

[rghvdberg]

Hi all,
Please have a look at Cardinal.
Cardinal is a free and open-source virtual modular synthesizer plugin, available as JACK standalone and LV2, VST2 and VST3 audio plugin for FreeBSD, Linux, macOS and Windows.
It is based on the popular VCV Rack but with a focus on being a fully self-contained plugin version.
[edit] to be clear, this means that cardinal doesn't load external modules but all modules are compiled in.

Have a look at the readme for extensive info on the capabilities and variants of the plugin
https://github.com/DISTRHO/Cardinal#readme

Everyone likes pictures, so here are some screenies.
Yes we have dark mode.

[SeBaer]

Another funny idea for a synth would be a car manufacturer's audio tool also discussed here.

Edit: Belay that. It's either buggy or crappy. The natural noises are not routed through the VCA, so you can only make them shut up by turning down their respective volume. But you can't play them.

[SeBaer]

Hi all,
Please have a look at Cardinal.

Looks pretty interesting, although we had another fork of Rack (VeeSeeVST) in OSC not too long ago. That one was a pretty huge resource hog (at least on my ancient machine). How does Cardinal compare?

Everyone likes pictures, so here are some screenies.

What I would like even better would be a download link. I couldn't find it on the github page. And I'm not inclined to build myself. A pointer would be nice.

[FrogsInPants]

Another funny idea for a synth would be a car manufacturer's audio tool also discussed here.

Looks like it's sample-based, though.

[SeBaer]

It has samples besides a regular oscillator, but those are hardcoded, so level playing ground.

[FrogsInPants]

Hi all,
Please have a look at Cardinal.

Looks pretty interesting, although we had another fork of Rack (VeeSeeVST) in OSC not too long ago. That one was a pretty huge resource hog (at least on my ancient machine). How does Cardinal compare?

Yeah, it seems a bit soon for a VCV variant round. I haven't tried it but I would be quite surprised if it isn't comparably heavyweight simply due to the nature of its execution model.

What I would like even better would be a download link. I couldn't find it on the github page. And I'm not inclined to build myself. A pointer would be nice.

https://github.com/DISTRHO/Cardinal/releases/tag/22.02

[SeBaer]

https://github.com/DISTRHO/Cardinal/releases/tag/22.02

Ah, okay, thanks. It was hidden at the side. I was searching at the top, in the text and pretty much everywhere else.

[rghvdberg]

Yeah sorry, I'm kinda used the the github page so I forgot to check/add the release page.

The main point and difference with cardinal is, that's it's a self contained plugin. It doesn't load rack modules, all provided modules are already in the plugin.
You can load external vst/lv2 plugins but that would probably defeat the point of the osc.
Anyway, I know there was a vcv challenge before but I just wanted to bring attention to this project.

[IV!]

I have no thoughts about KIA, let other enthusiasts test it. Students of Technische Universität Berlin at least knew what they wanted)
I played a little with CardinalSynth, made a simple synthesizer, I like everything so far! Indeed, it's like VeeSeeVST (the number of modules is comparable), only modern, multiplatform and promises to continue to be updated and supplemented with modules. This is about how I wanted to see VCV VST. Okay, it's not 2000+ modules, but more than any hardware and most software rack synthesizers can give you. It also has its own internal host for plugins, which of course is fantastic! Next thing also seems like a trifle, but create your own set with a bunch of flashing lights, turn on dark mode with maximum dimming and enjoy fantastic illumination! I could probably watch and listen to it for hours, maybe through this I will even fall in love with generative music!)
In general, I would like to see Cardinal in OSC, if not in the near future, then at least this year. As I understand it, they have several more important updates in their plans that were not ready for release.
Oh, yes, the most important thing: it looks like there are no presets here and I haven't delved into the building myself, so I can't say anything about performance yet ...
And if someone has already gone further than me, tell me if the current version of Cardinal has polyphony in normal (or in any) form?

[Yadrichik_Chaya]

Due to the OSC effect usage restrictions plenty of these now FREE plugins by AudioDamage will not be of any use to us in OSC - But some of them we can from now on use:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=577822

https://www.audiodamage.com/pages/free-and-legacy

Not only that, now all Toneboosters V3 plugins are FREE!

https://www.toneboosters.com/changelog.html

[DRMR]

I haven't tried it but I would be quite surprised if it isn't comparably heavyweight simply due to the nature of its execution model.

Except Cardinal runs entirely in the Host thread. (no multi-threading or separate midi threads etc.)

It's better/easier to make multiple smaller patches than to have one giant one with your entire project in it.

At least that's how I've been mostly using it, to create individual smaller instrument patches and reuse them across projects.

[gorgorgathgorgorgor]

Hi all,
Please have a look at Cardinal.

I most certainly shall.

[IV!]

Due to the OSC effect usage restrictions plenty of these now FREE plugins by AudioDamage will not be of any use to us in OSC - But some of them we can from now on use:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=577822

https://www.audiodamage.com/pages/free-and-legacy

Not only that, now all Toneboosters V3 plugins are FREE!

https://www.toneboosters.com/changelog.html

Thanks anyway, Yadrichik! But you're a little late with the news) Join Discord OSC to be aware of everything earlier (including the new synthesizer of the month ). If KVR is the "office" of One Synth Challenge, where everybody would "work and discussing work", Discord is as apartments of OSC where all gather after work to chat about anything!
P. S. Toneboosters V3 includes only FX plugins, unlike Audio Damage, which also released a Legacy Collection and it has some interesting synths! Which we have also already talked about...

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https://discord.gg/GKFyJYrf
In fact, this is an invitation for everyone who is interested in OSC as one of the rarest sanctuaries of intelligence and friendliness on the Internet! A small hub hut of several branches in the middle of the web, where small insects can forget about the big brother spider for a while and talk about their thoughts and feelings!

[Yadrichik_Chaya]

Due to the OSC effect usage restrictions plenty of these now FREE plugins by AudioDamage will not be of any use to us in OSC - But some of them we can from now on use:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=577822

https://www.audiodamage.com/pages/free-and-legacy

Not only that, now all Toneboosters V3 plugins are FREE!

https://www.toneboosters.com/changelog.html

Thanks anyway, Yadrichik! But you're a little late with the news) Join Discord OSC to be aware of everything earlier (including the new synthesizer of the month ). If KVR is the "office" of One Synth Challenge, where everybody would "work and discussing work", Discord is as apartments of OSC where all gather after work to chat about anything!
P. S. Toneboosters V3 includes only FX plugins, unlike Audio Damage, which also released a Legacy Collection and it has some interesting synths! Which we have also already talked about...

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https://discord.gg/GKFyJYrf
In fact, this is an invitation for everyone who is interested in OSC as one of the rarest sanctuaries of intelligence and friendliness on the Internet! A small hub hut of several branches in the middle of the web, where small insects can forget about the big brother spider for a while and talk about their thoughts and feelings!

Great! I had plans to join some time ago when Milkster posted a link and I even downloaded Discord for the ipad so now I'll definitely have to show up sooner or later