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susiwong wrote:
hibidy wrote:
susiwong wrote:the best possible NR actually might be a Frontier Tranzport :shock: , depending on your situation.
Just some thoughts,
susiwong
That is an interesting solution. For me, I'm so picky about hum I just make sure I've got humbuckers or noisless, but if you are happy with the pickups I can see this as a viable solution!
Even with humbuckers or noiseless PUs, whenever I'm coming near the part of my room with the PC, mixer, racks and so on, noise is getting out of hand pretty fast.
The Tranzport actually is a wonderful little device, 100% recommended.
Cheers,
susiwong
(more off topic, kinda from me :hihi:) I've gone the alphatrack route.....

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hibidy wrote:(more off topic, kinda from me :hihi:) I've gone the alphatrack route.....
Don't know how long I can resist ...
Nice controller, always wanted one.
Cheers,
susiwong

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susiwong wrote:
hibidy wrote:(more off topic, kinda from me :hihi:) I've gone the alphatrack route.....
Don't know how long I can resist ...
Nice controller, always wanted one.
Cheers,
susiwong
Resistance is futile! Sure works special/well with cubase :D

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My control surface of choice does allow for footswitches but can't plunk down on the couch (and Cubase is my host of choice): Mackie Control Universal. I love it (the old one, can't afford the newer Pro)... Way offtopic now!

We posted another video, though:

And I really don't have much else to divulge at the moment. I need to go get some luggage for the trip! Broke my bag coming back from Boston in November. I've traveled more lately than I had in many years - my trip to train in Miami for IK in late 2009 was actually my first post-9/11 flight and before that it had been about a year.

OK off-topic, on-topic, off-topic. We're nuts in this thread. I love it.

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Finally, stereo input!
But can you choose just the left or right of a stereo input?
That's the only good feature of Guitar Rig.

This brings up an issue I've always had with AmpliTube:
Since it sums L+R into mono (for now), I've always used a stereo recording with one side silent. But that is a waste of hard drive space since the files are twice the size they really need to be. You can't use AmpliTube on a mono channel, obviously, because that would defeat the stereo output.

If you use a mono audio file on a stereo channel, you end up with too loud of an input into AmpliTube, since it sums the identical L+R channels, which screws up your dynamics and makes it harsh.

Recently I've started using mono files on a mono audio track, panning it to one side and then routing it to a group channel with AmpliTube. But this decouples AmpliTube automation from the audio track and increases the number of channels in the mixer, and adds a bit of unnecessary confusion to the mix.

Guitar Rig, on the other hand, lets you select either side of the stereo channel as its input. So you can simply use a mono guitar track on a stereo channel and use only one side to drive it.

So how exactly is AmpliTube meant to be used in a multitracker?
Will the new version simplify things, at least letting us mute one side of a stereo input?

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Thats a good question regarding the new stero in feature!

Regarding wasting disk space: have you tried out bx_solo by brainworx music for collapsing the lot to mono? i use that and its free. I think you could probably do it with Voxengo's MSED also. Im not a Cubase user though so don't know its way of operating to be totally honest, but the above might be worth a try :)

Dean

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So my guess is that IK will be releasing a desktop amp controller interface for tweaking volume, eq, reverb, gain, etc live on stage or in the studio.

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currently, I have no more room for controllers! Don't need a soundcard! But if that is true, cheers to those who'll be able to use it :smile:

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And naturally, IK will be bundling their rebuilt AmpliTube software with the amp interface. Maybe they'll call it AmpIO.
I think the software is going to be designed to work with multiple controllers, so you can use the amp panel controller and StealthPedal or StompIO together in conjunction as a complete virtual rig control system.

So what do I win? :)

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redshift factor wrote: So what do I win? :)
An iphone app that tells you "better luck next time"

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redshift factor wrote:Finally, stereo input!
But can you choose just the left or right of a stereo input?
That's the only good feature of Guitar Rig.

This brings up an issue I've always had with AmpliTube:
Since it sums L+R into mono (for now), I've always used a stereo recording with one side silent. But that is a waste of hard drive space since the files are twice the size they really need to be. You can't use AmpliTube on a mono channel, obviously, because that would defeat the stereo output.

If you use a mono audio file on a stereo channel, you end up with too loud of an input into AmpliTube, since it sums the identical L+R channels, which screws up your dynamics and makes it harsh.

Recently I've started using mono files on a mono audio track, panning it to one side and then routing it to a group channel with AmpliTube. But this decouples AmpliTube automation from the audio track and increases the number of channels in the mixer, and adds a bit of unnecessary confusion to the mix.

Guitar Rig, on the other hand, lets you select either side of the stereo channel as its input. So you can simply use a mono guitar track on a stereo channel and use only one side to drive it.

So how exactly is AmpliTube meant to be used in a multitracker?
Will the new version simplify things, at least letting us mute one side of a stereo input?
Agreed, that would be useful.
There is a handy tool however as a workaround, Stereo Tools.
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Intuitive, free and quite powerful. Shows up a few times in all of my projects.
Cheers,
susiwong

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If you load Amplitube on a Mono Cubase channel it will drop the volume by 6db, even with all Amplitube modules bypassed. That should not be happening.
Intel Core2 Quad CPU + 4 GIG RAM

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in logic loading a amplitube on a mono track makes it stereo so it takes the mono input but has the stereo out, YMMV with different hosts tho
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See in cubase, I have my input as mono. Also, EXT allows me to set one mono input for the same purpose. So loading a stereo track still has a mono input and I have no gain issues in either host. I'm curious as to why this new stereo thingy would help out/useful applications.

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hibidy wrote:See in cubase, I have my input as mono. Also, EXT allows me to set one mono input for the same purpose. So loading a stereo track still has a mono input and I have no gain issues in either host. I'm curious as to why this new stereo thingy would help out/useful applications.
So you're saying you have your inputs 1 & 2 configured as 'Mono In' and 'Mono In 2' in your VST Connenctions panel, rather than as 'Stereo In' (1/2)?

The problem with this is when you select 'Mono In' on a stereo track (as you need for AmpliTube's stereo output), you end up with a mono audio file feeding AmpliTube identical input signals on both the left and right channels (because mono goes out centered), which AmpliTube then sums together at input. This very much has an effect on how AmpliTube sounds, because of DSM. Identical L+R summing is harsher, more overdriven, and less dynamic than input on only one side of a stereo in.

The 2 sound different, for sure. The question is, which way was AmpliTube designed to operate? Summed mono, or one side of a stereo input?

The new stereo configuration will be useful for processing stereo files (such as drums, as heard in the Youtube example) and still retaining the stereo image. It will most likely run the inputs through parallel discrete A/B chains.

This could be useful for a number of applications and instruments, including a Gibson ES-345 or Lucille.

And of course being able to use just one side of the stereo channel as input would be useful for the reasons discussed above. But that is still a question of if.

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