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Tony is not asking for tips, ideas or recommendations.

Waste of time...

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.jon wrote:
v1o wrote:Off topic guys!

Anyone have cool presets to share?
Disregarding the fact that compressor presets don't make any sense in the first place, MJUC has so few controls it surely benefits you more to learn to use them than slap a preset on your material, it won't work anyway.

MJUC is one of my best plugin purchases ever, it's yummy sound and simplicity compliments the cleanness and controls of Kotelnikov GE perfectly. What a great time to be a hobbyist musician, incredible tools that fit any budget.
You can can always make adjustments to suit the material. A lot of pro mixers have a set it and forget mentality with compressors.
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jens wrote:
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: If Tony were looking at ways to increase the appeal of DC8C v3 while retaining all the features, having a few different UI's with different controls exposed (and behind the scene presets for others) suited to specific tasks might be just the way to go.
What on earth???

This was one of the major new features of DC8C2 a few years ago - I must have ended up in a parallel universe that's severely lagging, I guess...
The front-end parameter layout doesn't change nor do the control ranges. My understanding with Presswerk is that not only does the GUI completely change based on the compressor, that even the attack and release ranges on the front-end get adjusted specific to the "easy mode" task at hand. This makes a lot of sense. I'm never using a 1.5s release time while mixing, same with a 600ms attack time. But if there was a "Drum Mode" where the attack knobs range covered 0-30ms with release times capping off at 600ms, that might be a far more usable range. If the threshold were hidden and fixed behind the scenes with Input controlling compression, that'd really start to simplify things. Maybe the "Bass mode" has an attack range starting at 5ms and stopping at 30ms, with a two-stage release happening behind the scenes. Maybe Tony opts to ballpark/model specific compressors instead. Then I flip into Advanced mode when I want to make further tweaks, and all the same controls are available.

That's the difference between the type of Easy mode I'm suggesting for DC8C v3 versus the current one.

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okay, got you - fair enough.

However in reality the whole "architecture" totally changes "under the hood", which also dramatically affects these parameters and their values. (I'd even go as far as to say you can basically completely ignore the values.)

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Has anyone seen the fantastic interview with Tony Frenzel (= klanghelm) on the Marc Mozart Youtube channel? It's in German language, but English subtitles are available for the anglophone crowd.

I was amazed about how humble and enthusiastic Tony is. He talks about how he learned DSP autodidactically. At one point they also talk about audio forums, specifically about KVR. Lot of good stuff in the interview, I can just recommend anyone to watch it.


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What do you guys think about using MJUC as a mastering compressor?? What model would you choose for that particular task?

Currently I'm using MJUC mainly in the drums buss (MK3), and as a very gentle Mix buss compressor (MK1), just for the gluing and the coloring.

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I've used MK2 a few times for mastering, dual mono, low ratio, barely moving the meter etc.

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Hermetech Mastering wrote:I've used MK2 a few times for mastering, dual mono, low ratio, barely moving the meter etc.
Same here. I like your presets for mastering just for adding weight and color to complete mix. Little goes a lot.

Initially i could not understand why people rave about MJUC but when i spent some time with it it became one of the best compressors i ever tried.

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I use the MJUC as a group compressor for my "lead" group... settings are a bit like a typical mastering compressor with only about 1dB gain reduction for the loudest parts. It's more to "glue" the sounds together. There is also a good preset "light mix compression" which I use as a starting point. It uses model 1 without oversampling (HQ mode) and there is Afaik a HP filter at 250Hz.
As a mastering compressor I would use similar settings but with HQ mode enabled. So yes, you can also use the MJUC as a mastering compressor, why not.

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Hermetech Mastering wrote:I've used MK2 a few times for mastering, dual mono, low ratio, barely moving the meter etc.
same here just that I always use it. since my mastering is all ITB, MJUC is an important part of the chain to get me "there" (as close to hardware as possible)

usually not even 0.5dB GR, drive maximum at 3, HQ turned on.

to me the best "analogizer" plugin that exists.

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Yea. MK3 with dual stage, HQ and just a bit of glue there and thats it.
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When using MJUC as a mix buss or as a mastering compressor it needs to be calibrated, right?

I mean, the default -18 value seems to be ok for tracks, not for full mixes.

I'm not sure if I understand well that feature.

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Giova942 wrote:When using MJUC as a mix buss or as a mastering compressor it needs to be calibrated, right?

I mean, the default -18 value seems to be ok for tracks, not for full mixes.

I'm not sure if I understand well that feature.
it depends on how hot/loud your signal is before going into MJUC.

I have a sweetspot, when I turn up "compression" to around 12, I start seing some gain reduction. my calibration is at -12 in that case. Just use it as a "input sensitivity".

At -18 it will start to compress (and saturate when turning up the "drive") way earlier than if you'd set it to -10. At -18 it does help with gain staging, so you keep your channels in a safe zone and not run channels too hot.

Hope that helps.

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Hey guys, which version was the last 32 bit build of MJUC? There is only 64 bit version now on Klanghelm website and I have deleted my 32 bit installation by accident.

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Found it in the changelog, it was 1.2.0
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