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noiseboyuk wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:55 am fwiw...

I've always felt that the ROMpler / workstation keyboards and expanders were all very much of their time, much more so than pure synths which have become timeless, with so many synths having a character that is as relevant today as when it they were released decades ago. But workstations? The richness, quality and variety that is available today so massively exceeds the technology of 20 or more years ago, I really struggle to see much value in them beyond nostalgia. But sure, if you need THAT specific sound to evoke an era then only a Triton will do (or whatever ROMpler made it).
True, but what if you had some sounds you programmed in one of those many years ago, and used in some projecyts, and now want to recreate them ITB? That was my case. I was able to recreate (moore or less close) some sounds I did in my 03R/W in the M1 VST. There were some differencves between the engines, butr the ROMN is almost the same, and the differences were not so big as to not be ignored. In the end, I created some sounds the closely resemble those.

Let alone that the Wavestation, which I used extensively back then (I also have a Wavestation A/D) is an exact replica, with the advantage that you now can use ALL the performances with their own effects, instead of using just one FX set for ALL of them (which was the case if you used a Multi in the Wavestation A/D, which was how I used it).

Of course, I was more than happy :)
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It's a funny old cycle... 10-20 years ago, synth plugin were largely VA or sample based, but people would ask for rompler-type plugins, that had quick access to a wide range of sounds like, eg, Rolands JV/XV, Korg's M1/Triton, Yamaha's Motif etc, as there really weren't plugin equivalents.

Now we've got a lot of plugins of specifically many of those romplers, and also plugins based on the rompler style but with better engines and samples, and people go "Yeah, but those old romplers were crap anyway, who wants 'em..?"

Ultimately, you've got to find and use the sounds and instruments that inspire you - *everything* can be musical in the right context. And yes, if you're looking for the height of realism for brass sections, acoustic pianos, orchestral stuff etc then you're not really going to find it in old rompler tech - however, some people *want* to (eg) recreate the crappy sounding scores of 90s video games, and they are appropriate tools for that.

Plus, some of those "romplers" have actually quite flexible and powerful engines - take the XV-5080. There's no reason you can't use the more synthy waveforms and use the power of the engine to create beautiful shifting pads and other textures that you couldn't get out of a more typical VA etc. And on the hardware, you can run your own samples through that engine too, if you want to get super-unique stuff.

Use these tools for their strengths, rather than write them off for their weaknesses, I say! :tu:

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fmr wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:05 am(which was the case if you used a Multi in the Wavestation A/D, which was how I used it).
Yep. It wasn't fun...

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A while ago I was thinking of buying the Korg Triton hardware

Then the software version appeared

After that I was considering the Korg Prophecy hardware

Now the software version appeared

I know it doesn't have all the oscillator types, but I think it sounds decent

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dfraze wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:36 am A while ago I was thinking of buying the Korg Triton hardware

Then the software version appeared

After that I was considering the Korg Prophecy hardware

Now the software version appeared

I know it doesn't have all the oscillator types, but I think it sounds decent
hmmm, i say keep thinking. :D it seems to work. :hihi:

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JamminFool wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:44 am
hmmm, i say keep thinking. :D it seems to work. :hihi:
I wouldn't have to think so hard if I had the money to buy all the hardware that I want :)

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Triton is a fantastic beast. It made its way into most pop songs we love and adore throughout the 00s.

The fact that we have access to a triton (which cost >$2k back then) for 1/10th of the price is mind boggling. Yeah many sounds might be cheesy now, but keep in mind what we define as "cheesy" is because it was overused. Before it was overused it was unique and was in a league of its own.

Triton was to the workstation world what Omnisphere is for us today. A true masterpiece.

Process triton's sounds with fabfilter plugins (saturation) + blackhole reverb and you'll breathe new life into old samples.

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keyman_sam wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:02 pm Process triton's sounds with fabfilter plugins (saturation) + blackhole reverb and you'll breathe new life into old samples.
yeah I think adding effects and resampling into something like the new RS Mimic could add a fun twist, only once I’d muted most of the layers though

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demoing Korg Prophecy I noticed that the patch "AirWorks" is very different than the "AirWorks" patch in hardware Korg Trinity Solo-Tri Expansion.
I like the "AirWorks" patch much more in the Korg Trinity.
in the software Prophecy the vibrato is automatic and too strong (I tried messing with the parameters but haven't figured it out yet)
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Maybe try turning off the key mode under LFO 1?
TS-12 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:48 pm demoing Korg Prophecy I noticed that the patch "AirWorks" is very different than the "AirWorks" patch in hardware Korg Trinity Solo-Tri Expansion.
I like the "AirWorks" patch much more in the Korg Trinity.
in the software Prophecy the vibrato is automatic and too strong (I tried messing with the parameters but haven't figured it out yet)
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Sequent wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:11 pm Maybe try turning off the key mode under LFO 1?
TS-12 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:48 pm demoing Korg Prophecy I noticed that the patch "AirWorks" is very different than the "AirWorks" patch in hardware Korg Trinity Solo-Tri Expansion.
I like the "AirWorks" patch much more in the Korg Trinity.
in the software Prophecy the vibrato is automatic and too strong (I tried messing with the parameters but haven't figured it out yet)
thanks. that got rid of auto-vibrato. now gotta find a way to assign LFO 1 to mod wheel.
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dfraze wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:36 am A while ago I was thinking of buying the Korg Triton hardware

Then the software version appeared

After that I was considering the Korg Prophecy hardware

Now the software version appeared

I know it doesn't have all the oscillator types, but I think it sounds decent
The Prophecy plugin has all the oscillator types of the hardware version. It doesn't have all of the oscillator types of the Z1 (neither did the hardware Prophecy).

Now you need to start considering buying a hardware Z1, so Korg will make a software version. ;-)
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Aside from joysticks and X/Y pads, has there ever existed a MIDI controller that has something like the "log" wheel (wheel 3) of the Prophecy? Something with a Ribbon on a wheel? I do miss that from my hardware Prophecy. Curious if there's anything like it out there :)

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Pretty sure that is a negative. Prophecy´s multidirectional ribbon seems one of a kind, never replicated elsewhere.
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