Very funny... Seriously, you realize the Monkees were the first band to use a Moog synthesizer on an album, right?egbert wrote:You mean in the sense that if ten thousand Monkees sat down at ten thousand Moog modular systems for 10,000 years, inevitably, one of them would play the Fur Elise?james0tucson wrote:How could you not mention the Monkees?egbert wrote: His initial products were big modular systems which were used in the studio by:
Whats a Moog
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- KVRAF
- 4222 posts since 23 Feb, 2004 from Tucson Arizona USA
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- KVRAF
- 2135 posts since 12 Jul, 2004 from Brave New World
switched on beethoven?
never heard of it...
never heard of it...
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- KVRAF
- 5782 posts since 10 Mar, 2003 from Music Shed #8
yep, not The Doors or The Beatles. And they beat The Byrds to it by about 4 weeks.james0tucson wrote:you realize the Monkees were the first band to use a Moog synthesizer on an album, right?
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- KVRian
- 886 posts since 2 Jun, 2005 from Hawaii
i'm sure many have seen ishkur's page about electronic music: http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html
according to the tutorial, the roots of electronic music go back 2000 years. this isn't an answer to "who invented the synthesizer," but the tutorial is pretty interesting nonetheless.
according to the tutorial, the roots of electronic music go back 2000 years. this isn't an answer to "who invented the synthesizer," but the tutorial is pretty interesting nonetheless.
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
basically, moog is the jesus of synthesizers.
i'll just mention the story here, even if there isnt much in common. the story of jesus and the story of moog in the least share the same feeling.
one day, three old perverts show up at some woman's house and pay her all kinds of fancy things. by some strange and certainly unrelated reason she mentions she is a virgin dispite having a baby that's just popped out and suddenly the story about the three old perverts is forgotten beyond this point. i'll leave to the reader to speculate.
the baby grows up and since his mother was a virgin (and i'm sure a popular one with the wise men too) everyone thinks he has magical powers or is the son of god or whatnot, and obviously this was not a splash conception or anything silly like that..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_conception
because such a thing never happens!
anyway, let me recap now.
this story shows that, come on people, i doubt mary was a virgin, even if she was it doesnt mean a pregnancy was unnatural, and her name was probably shik-lik-mikik or unf-unf or something weird like that anyway. facts here are pretty sketchy at best.
the idea is people are so stupid they dont realize simple things like this. look at tesla or jesus's real dad or all the other guys who were making synthesizers at the time moog decided to join in.
moog was lucky, just like bell, just like 'god', and that is what a moog is.
although, he did a pretty good job. you really shouldnt worship him though, imagine in 4006... moogians.. :/
i'll just mention the story here, even if there isnt much in common. the story of jesus and the story of moog in the least share the same feeling.
one day, three old perverts show up at some woman's house and pay her all kinds of fancy things. by some strange and certainly unrelated reason she mentions she is a virgin dispite having a baby that's just popped out and suddenly the story about the three old perverts is forgotten beyond this point. i'll leave to the reader to speculate.
the baby grows up and since his mother was a virgin (and i'm sure a popular one with the wise men too) everyone thinks he has magical powers or is the son of god or whatnot, and obviously this was not a splash conception or anything silly like that..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_conception
because such a thing never happens!
anyway, let me recap now.
this story shows that, come on people, i doubt mary was a virgin, even if she was it doesnt mean a pregnancy was unnatural, and her name was probably shik-lik-mikik or unf-unf or something weird like that anyway. facts here are pretty sketchy at best.
the idea is people are so stupid they dont realize simple things like this. look at tesla or jesus's real dad or all the other guys who were making synthesizers at the time moog decided to join in.
moog was lucky, just like bell, just like 'god', and that is what a moog is.
although, he did a pretty good job. you really shouldnt worship him though, imagine in 4006... moogians.. :/
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
i know i've got a tripple post here, but being an engineer although one with less experiance, i feel moog would have felt best to consider himself a discoverer. moog rediscovered the usefulness of modularity when used in electronic musical instruments, rediscovered and refined how to combine elements in the form we use today. envelope and lfo modulators, audio oscillators, audio filters, audio attenuators.. although all of this had been done before, nobody was really getting serious about it. moog was in the right place, at the right time, with the right tools, the right connections, and the right state of mind.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 10 posts since 8 Dec, 2005
ROFLOLMAOMFGLOLTEEHEEGGKTXBYE:D;p^_^
I found an effect called moogfilter... its a simple filter with 2 knobs: resonance and filter. and a autopulser... turning on the autopulser makes the sound like a phaser or wahwah. but it makes a chukachuka wahwah effect. I still dont get what so "moogish" about this... perhaps the author just wanna put Moogs name to confuse us?
I found an effect called moogfilter... its a simple filter with 2 knobs: resonance and filter. and a autopulser... turning on the autopulser makes the sound like a phaser or wahwah. but it makes a chukachuka wahwah effect. I still dont get what so "moogish" about this... perhaps the author just wanna put Moogs name to confuse us?
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- KVRian
- 1469 posts since 18 Sep, 2004 from Suffolk, UK
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
laxxee; yes.. people do that. the funny thing is, even the best 'emulation' of a transistor ladder filter only comes a bit close to being an ota-like effect. it is possible to produce a diode ladder effect with much extra calculation, but the transistor ladder is really not something that is possible real-time on even the fastest modern consumer cpus.
what you're getting is actually a generic cascaded lossy integrator with global feedback and approximate phase compensation. so.. junk.
if you want a real 'moog' style filter, you can buy this stuff for about 100$. the actual filter design is really simple, that is the reason it was so successful. to be honest though, it isnt really something that is very unique.. the only special stuff that happens occurs when you do things the filter isnt directly intended for, like high frequency (audio) modulation of the frequency, or overdrive of the inputs. that is why i say usually, just dont bother looking for anything 'moog'.. that is just a power word, it really is meaningless. look for a filter that sounds good to you. i like mine personally, but i havent released an effect version of it.
2079 anno domoogini /\/\/
what you're getting is actually a generic cascaded lossy integrator with global feedback and approximate phase compensation. so.. junk.
if you want a real 'moog' style filter, you can buy this stuff for about 100$. the actual filter design is really simple, that is the reason it was so successful. to be honest though, it isnt really something that is very unique.. the only special stuff that happens occurs when you do things the filter isnt directly intended for, like high frequency (audio) modulation of the frequency, or overdrive of the inputs. that is why i say usually, just dont bother looking for anything 'moog'.. that is just a power word, it really is meaningless. look for a filter that sounds good to you. i like mine personally, but i havent released an effect version of it.
2079 anno domoogini /\/\/
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- vvvvvvv
- 2595 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk
One fundamental thing missing from this thread that no one's bothered to mention:
The great Moog sound
The Moog sounds so good that each new generation rediscovers it for themselves.
Who cares who invented it or when. All that matters is being able to use that sound.
When a musician, or a tune, or an instrument jumps to the next generation then you know there's something special going on
The great Moog sound
The Moog sounds so good that each new generation rediscovers it for themselves.
Who cares who invented it or when. All that matters is being able to use that sound.
When a musician, or a tune, or an instrument jumps to the next generation then you know there's something special going on
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- KVRAF
- 4266 posts since 21 Oct, 2001 from my bolthole in the south pacific
Agreed. My intro to the genuine article was when I lived in a share house quite a while back. A band's gear was set up for rehearsal in a spare room and the KB player had a mini moog and an analog delay pedal. Over a couple of weeks I got to spend a few hours playing it through a Marshall guitar amp. The sound of that beast ripping up a 3 octave portmanteau through the delay pedal and the tube amp -- something I'll never forget.kevvvvv wrote:One fundamental thing missing from this thread that no one's bothered to mention:
The great Moog sound
The Moog sounds so good that each new generation rediscovers it for themselves.