A bass amp/cab sim project..have a listen

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Most half decent hi-fi speakers should be able to kick out a 40hz tone..no?

I'm not quite sure why you would assert no one can hear 30-50hz. Sure, on a crappy boombox...

And with the rise in home theatre systems with subs, even more likely? --- let alone club PA systems.

(not wanting an argument here, just curious!)

I dunno, perhaps its almost a point of priniciple, do you castrate mixes for the lowest common denominator, or keep something dynamics and depth in the bass that rewards the listener with a good and accurate playback system?
A great many CD's too me seem weak in the sub 80hz-100hz region, compared to how say rock bands can actually sound live.

FWIW I do put a highpass filter in place at 30hz to get rid of any subsonic crud.

As for problems EQIng bass... do the same problems apply with an EQ in a bass preamp (that might be in an amphead or DI box)?





championrabbit wrote:
lunik wrote:Bass is supposed to have a big bottom :D

Castrated bass is endemic. Yeah I know its hard to mix, but few recordings seem to capture the excitement of having your les catching a breeze next to a bass rig that is flat down to 40hz.

One mixing approach I've thougt of trying is to cut the bass grt around 60-120hz, leaving space for the kick drum, but boosting at 30-50z to get the deep fundamentals there.

The voicing on the simulation really sounded good - along sansamp bass driver lines in a way.

championrabbit wrote:Sounds good, but there's too much energy at the bottom. I'd love to hear it EQed in a mix with a drum kit (or a kick drum at least).

Since there seems to be plenty of character in the mid range, I don't imagine that losing some bottom would be a complete tragedy?
Since nobody is going to be able to hear your 30-50hz bass, what's the point?

Better to plant the bass somewhere in the middle of the kick drum, presuming that you want people to be able to hear the notes the bass is playing, non?

In terms of ampsims, there's absolutely no point filling frequencies that are immediately going to be removed since all it does is rob you of overhead.

More noise, less signal.

Pointless.

The overall sound of the ampsim (assuming it isn't another midiworks-type joke) is impressive though.

I like.

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lunik wrote:Most half decent hi-fi speakers should be able to kick out a 40hz tone..no?

I'm not quite sure why you would assert no one can hear 30-50hz. Sure, on a crappy boombox...
I was thinking in terms of bass/kick clashing rather than the biological/physical limitations of ears!!

:)

I'd say that to a great extent it is sensible to mix primarily for less than half-decent speakers.

I dunno, since we can't try this thing out, it's all academic I guess. I'd love to give it a try though.

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